Whoooops! Man dunks his Bugatti Veyron

[Silverfox]

x) All my posts are a joke with you just because you have a differing opinion, that's no way to live. The t-zero does not need the trailer for normal driving, I was simply stating in the case of the cross country dash, it would be necessary. The Tzero without the trailer get's 300 mile range.

 

y) Again you guys pull up a Chevrolet, I don't see me defending Chevrolet in the slightest. I could could spin around and say "Wow Mr. UK, the Land Rovers have pretty crappy drag coefficients as well" all the while having nothing to do with what we're talking about. Though on topic: two cars with identical aerodynamics, the one tuned for efficiency...will be more efficient.

 

z) The ariel atom is versatile, like I said. I don't see 155mph in daily driving, sorry not happening. Even on the track, VERY few tracks will make use of speeds that high. I like the ariel atom because of it's all around specs, the bugatti is a straight line vehicle, less so then a drag racer but it's big strength is it's high speed. I'd take a car with more balanced stats. Le Mans usually involves alot of fairly long straight aways, through more turns in there and the atom will destroy the super cars. (Ironically if you look here the best record of Lemans, the fastest lap time didn't barely broke 155mph )

 

 

I've highlighted a few examples of why your posts are considered jokes. Ready? Go have a look at those highlighted quotes and have a good hard think.

 

Yep, that'd be those then. I don't slate you for your differing opinion. On the contrary. I slate you for being ill-informed and grossly misled. The Land Rover has a poor drag coefficient, yes, But the V6/V8 diesel is still rather economical compared to most US vehicles strangely enough.

 

Speed record at Circuit de la Sarthe: 252.9 mph.

 

Do you see accelerating to 60mph in sub 3 seconds as daily driving? What about having no roof for the rainy weather?

 

Thing is, you would argue until the cows come home that 2+2=5 given the chance.

[Krieg1337]

Except the ariel atom looks like .. Its not all about performance, its also about looks. It doesn't look like its good for the road at all, its all open... http://www.best-supercars-wallpapers.com/C...m_Wallpaper.jpg

 

(Added pic to make sure we are talking about the same car)

 

Edit: silverfox, the last part

Edited November 17, 2009 by Darkfuneral1337

[IVIYTH0S]

I've highlighted a few examples of why your posts are considered jokes. Ready? Go have a look at those highlighted quotes and have a good hard think.

 

Yep, that'd be those then. I don't slate you for your differing opinion. On the contrary. I slate you for being ill-informed and grossly misled. The Land Rover has a poor drag coefficient, yes, But the V6/V8 diesel is still rather economical compared to most US vehicles strangely enough.

 

Speed record at Circuit de la Sarthe: 252.9 mph.

 

Do you see accelerating to 60mph insub 3 seconds as daily driving? What about having no roof for the rainy weather?

 

Thing is, you would argue until the cows come home that 2+2=5 given the chance.

Alright you got me on the speed record part (since wiki never really says where that 252.9 mph speed limit occurred, I wasn't sure what to make of it or if it was even relevant to Le Mans).

 

again with the attacks on the US motors I don't care, I'm not even arguing that. I was poking fun at your chevy truck example.

 

If you're admitting the useless function in daily driving, then I don't see why we're bumping heads?? I'm saying rich people oughta spend their money in the future of personal transportation, electric. Since the EV would handle all of their daily driving, creature comforts and all and be zero emission.

 

I wouldn't drive the atom in daily driving or get one for that matter, just was saying I'd rather have that than a bugatti in the track example.

 

I'm not illogical where I'd try to argue against fact, if it's fact I'll gladly accept it. But people telling me that being wasteful is ok, that rustles my feathers

 

Except the ariel atom looks like .. Its not all about performance, its also about looks. It doesn't look like its good for the road at all, its all open... http://www.best-supercars-wallpapers.com/C...m_Wallpaper.jpg

 

(Added pic to make sure we are talking about the same car)

 

Edit: silverfox, the last part

Looks should be acquired because of their relevance to making the car better. I would never invest in the cosmetics of my car, all my money goes into making my car more efficient and faster.

Edited November 17, 2009 by IVIYTH0S

[Krieg1337]

Well, I like my parents BMW, and I always look at the MPG thing it has(Yeah its like another indicator thing in the RPM thing, I think) and its usually pretty good, around the 20-30MPG area. Its seriously not that bad, and it looks sweet too.

 

Electric cars are the future, but the future won't be here for a long time, Gas stations won't allow that

 

Edit: Economy would probably get even worse, no more gasoline being bought? Damn thats a lot of money lost..

Edited November 17, 2009 by Darkfuneral1337

[Zertz]

Why don't you guys just leave it, this isn't going anywhere.............................

[IVIYTH0S]

Well, I like my parents BMW, and I always look at the MPG thing it has(Yeah its like another indicator thing in the RPM thing, I think) and its usually pretty good, around the 20-30MPG area. Its seriously not that bad, and it looks sweet too.

 

Electric cars are the future, but the future won't be here for a long time, Gas stations won't allow that

But 90% or more of your driving, will be well within the electric car's range. Gas stations don't have to allow that, since you won't (for the most part) need em. and I say for the most part because for the long road trips you'll take out your diesel electric hybrid.

Those in dash mpg estimators aren't that accurate, though that is probably the range your parents car is getting, a prius gets better mileage.

[Krieg1337]

Why don't you guys just leave it, this isn't going anywhere.............................

 

If everyone thought that way there would be no forums. I thought forums were here for discussions.

 

Edit: And IVI, its another American BMW, its not a true German one. Or else it would have diesel and then it would be well in the 50MPG range. And I agree actually, electric cars should be used for cities, because almost all Gas cars suck in cities and urban areas. For the longer trips take out the gasoline cars. That would be a smart thing to do, but since when are things thought through in America

Edited November 17, 2009 by Darkfuneral1337

[Silverfox]

Alright you got me on the speed record part (since wiki never really says where that 252.9 mph speed limit occurred, I wasn't sure what to make of it or if it was even relevant to Le Mans).

 

Well, being that it took part in a Le Mans race ...

 

If you're admitting the useless function in daily driving, then I don't see why we're bumping heads?? I'm saying rich people oughta spend their money in the future of personal transportation, electric. Since the EV would handle all of their daily driving, creature comforts and all and be zero emission.

 

Why should they? Why aren't poorer people spending their money in the future of public transportation? Getting a bit socialist with that statement. The rich pay their taxes and no doubt worked hard to get their pay cheque, so on what basis should they be penalised for wanting a 'super car'? Other than the tax they pay on the vehicle of course. And the fuel duty. And associated road taxes.

 

I wouldn't drive the atom in daily driving or get one for that matter, just was saying I'd rather have that than a bugatti in the track example.

 

So please explain how the Ariel Atom is more versatile than, say, a Bugatti? I am honestly struggling to follow the logic here and even as I went for a piss I thought "but you don't even have a door in the Atom". The Atom is quick and like the Caterham, is probably banned for many FIA races ... but your argument for this very reason "versatile" is somewhat flawed in every sense of 'epic'.

 

I'm not illogical where I'd try to argue against fact, if it's fact I'll gladly accept it. But people telling me that being wasteful is ok, that rustles my feathers

Who's saying being wasteful is okay? Nobody is. I can bet you the average supercar puts out LESS greenhouse gases in its lifetime than a family sedan. That to me, is not wasteful in the slightest.

 

As has been mentioned before - if you want to get all socialist about people not needing to exceed their means, then you'd better hand back all your luxuries (computer included), as you don't NEED those things in reality - it's wasteful after all.

[kingdingeling]

How stubborn do you have to be to not want understand the concept of fun? Why did I buy a BMW 118d with less space, slightly cramped driving positition (I've got too long legs...), bugger all boot space and absolutely homosexual Run-Flat tires? Cause it's more fun than your stupid Gee-Whiz or whatever the hell those craptacular electric cars are called! I could have gotten a Toyota Prius for that money, uhh you will say, it's nice and efficient hybrid rubbish. But it's absolutely inefficient for anything else other than city driving! See the Top Gear test.

 

I don't run premium, nor do I run gasoline. I run a 4-pot diesel, turbocharged, that gets me over 35MPG when I thrash it down the Autobahn in excess of 120mph (200km/h). Now if I somehow got sick and started driving sensibly (god beware!), I would be getting over 50MPG, they even fitted the damn thing with brake energy regeneration and a Start/Stop Automatic thingamajigg.

 

People who are still people not eco activists like you buy cars because of emotion, they go into the showroom and look at that car and think I gotta have one! That's what happened with me for the Beamer, it happened like that to Jack with his two Focuses and it happens to millions of people every day. It's human goddamn nature, end of argument!

 

You don't want design? You want relevance to usefulness? Fine, have one of these:

[Andrewr05]

Thanks king...

 

I just threw up in mouth a little bit...

[rourkchris]

People buy cars because of emotion, they go into the showroom and look at that car and think I gotta have one! _1.jpg[/img]

I rarely stop to look at a car but 2 days ago I had to stop and look at a Dodge Challenger sitting on a car lot. Had the dealership been open I may have bought it right then and there. Not too fuel efficient or ecologically responsible but I couldn't care less. It was just damn sexy in my eyes.

 

Hell the power plant that provides my electricity is a coal burner chugging out thick black smoke. If I made them burn more coal to supply an eco-car how responsible would that really be?

 

I'm not taking either side of this argument because I don't really have a dog in this fight and will likely never drive a car that costs more than $40,000.

[ekiM]

What's the problem with Run-Flat's?