NF4 - Some Help Getting Up & Running (Or Faster?)

[G.N.U.Fragman]

cant we get any direct links for bios flash programs, and newest and best bios? this thread is just made for lazy ppl

[masterwoot]

Rgone, thanks very much for the info and help.

 

Question: Why Dram Data Drive Strength= Level 4 and not 1? I recall Jess's work:

 

DRAM Drive Strength**= Level 1-4 I would only suggest using Level 1 or 3, if you have CPC enabled. With CPC, anything above level 1 gave me extreme instability, some reported that level 3 work good with CPC enabled, although this didn’t work for me. Some others have had success w/ using level 2-4 if CPC is disabled.

Large Influence on Stability.

 

Anyway, I'm trying Level 1 tonight to check for memtest errors--I was getting 'em at Level 4.

 

Thanks

 

(Ya, I know Jess's work was on the nf3 and yours is on the nf4. I'm just curious as to if Level 4 just happened to work better for you, or if you had any insight.)

[dragao]

I will try this configuration......

I install my system saturday and all in default I cant up 1 mhz!!!!!!(Clockgen crash) :confused:

The NVtune cant work out of crashes....ITE Speed dont up clock..... I simply dont understand WHY!!!!!!

I appreciate some help :angel:

 

 

Alright to say what I see lets go with this. For them what has not seen a board> the NF4 Ultra-D and the SLI-DR what has Orange and Yellow slots.

1. Those that cannot get but one stick going and it in slot #2 which is the first Orange slot in the from edge of board and where a single stick should be.

 

2. If you find it difficult to even get going at all and have an old stick PC2100 or PC2700 > put in Orange slot @2 and after clear CMOS crank the board and enter bios and load optimized defaults.

 

3. Alright now you have made the bios and loaded optimized and rebooted into bios.

a. Make sure Erratta94 is disabled.

b. Turn off cpu throttling.

c. Set Pci pay load to 256mb and not default 4096 or to what your memory on video card actually is.

d. I usually set hard drive delay to 2 seconds in order to give them time to spin up before the bios tries to read them. Especially good for some PATA drives but I use on all.

e. Think that covers most of the odd things outside the Genie Bios expcept I turn off any Lan, Firewire, Serial Port and any other thing I am not using except I never ever turn off any SATA drive as long as I use ANY sata product.

 

4. Now to the Genie Bios and these numbers are going to be conservative because I know some of you are scared and have a hard time undestanding that if you plan to run fast you must add volts and I have run considerable more but now have settled well on to these and I really do not care to debate the issue as these work and I have spent considerable energy to get this all to work on a broad cross reference of setups to get UP and GOING.

a. Genie Bios first page from the top down and remember to turn off all at bottom you are not using.

a1. LTD/FSB = X4.0

a2. CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio Manual Set to what Your Default Multiplier Is.

a3. PCI EX Frequency = 105 ATI video cards Nvidia 100 or 101.

a4. Cpu Startup VID = 1.425 Volts.

a5. CPU VID 1.425 Volts.

a6. CPU VID Special Control = 110% and this is around 1.52Volts total and is far and way fine as I have run it with OEM HSF and never gotten over 46C full tilt with 3000+ Winnie. Note we are trying to throw out all variables and get running and you then tune up or down on your own. Maybe I tell you too much but this is 72 hours worth of work.

a7. LTD voltage = 1.4 Volts.

a8. Chipset Voltage = 1.8 Volts.

a9. Dram Voltage = 2.9 Volts.

 

5. Genie Bios first entry at top> DRAM CONFIGURATION

a1. 200 Dram Frequency 1:1

a2. Enable CPC

a3. 2.5

a4. 04

a5. 07

a6. 04

a7. 07

a8. 14

a9. 05

a10. 03

a11. 02

a12. 05

a13. 3120

a14. 05

a15. Bank Interleave= DISABLED You want mediocre memory to run don't you? Then disable it and see how much better the thing will clock and do business right now.

 

a16. DQS Skew Control = INCREASE :nod:

a17. DQS Skew Value = 0 (zero)

a18. Dram Drive Strength= Level 6

a19. Dram Data Drive Strength= Level 4

a20. MAX ASYNCH LATENCY = 7X

a21. READ PREAMBLE= 5X

a22. IDLE CYLCE= 256 cycles

a23. DYNAMIC Counter= Disabled

a24. R/W Que Bypass = 16x

a25. ByPass Max 7X

a26. 32 Byte Granularity = Disable 8 Bursts.

 

Now in most cases this will take the boards that hate two sticks and problematic with TCCD and some other classes of memory and make them starters and runners and moved me from starting with a starter stick and hardly stable at 225 to 240FSB to now prime95 stable and memtest86 Rev 1.51, test #8 stable for hours @275x9 with my 3000+ Winchester. For many of you it might be worth a try for sure and for some just to see some bigger numbers.

 

Key for the present time is to turn off bank interleave so the memory volts can drop and to set MaxAsysnch Latency to 7X and to set Read Preamble to 5x. I have tried this on a couple of weaker TCCD memories and with Crucial Ballistix pC3200 and all the settings will just about work for any marginal or troublesome memory.

 

Try it you might be pleasantly surprised at the benches that finish and the stability of your system.

 

RGone...

 

EDIT: Hold the phone! When trying to get windoors loaded unhook the dang USB stuffs that is not needed to get up and going. Unhook the dang printer, thumb/pen drives, card readers, cameras and all other such paraphenalia that has zero to do with trying to install and crank a system up.

 

EDIT: More hold the phone. The very uniqueness of the settings is that if you "either" swap CPC back to AUTO or DISABLE you have settings that are allowing me to prime 260FSB now for 2hrs 28 mins and 47secs. Never were intended for HARDCORE but get going and working and putering CORE. You WILL have to lower FSB for 4 sticks > get used to IT!!! And you will need 2T or CPC >DISABLE or AUTO so board can swap to 2T by itself. Enough said I am through.

RGone...Again...

[unreal]

revote for sticky, or maybe recompile all the useful info into 1 post and sticky that?

[red930]

I will try this configuration......

I install my system saturday and all in default I cant up 1 mhz!!!!!!(Clockgen crash) :confused:

The NVtune cant work out of crashes....ITE Speed dont up clock..... I simply dont understand WHY!!!!!!

I appreciate some help :angel:

The only way to OC is through the BIOS.

 

DFI does not support nVtune and I don't know anyone that really uses software tools to OC.

[unreal]

The only way to OC is through the BIOS.

 

DFI does not support nVtune and I don't know anyone that really uses software tools to OC.

 

Looks at XS and all the world record OC's :shake:

 

Yes they do use em, but for every day OC's then yeh bios everytime.

[red930]

Looks at XS and all the world record OC's :shake:

 

Yes they do use em, but for every day OC's then yeh bios everytime.

Like I said... I only use my system in the real world so only the BIOS settings count for me.

[Silvestre]

Raid = 2 Drives

Sata = Not IDE

 

 

SATA is actually also an IDE..it's just serialized

[soundx98]

Bump for a great post.

 

Gotta get it up b4 you can orgasm

[RGone]

SATA is actually also an IDE..it's just serialized

 

Not exactly true. IDE has always been serial but was buffered after reading as PATA to be written to the drive as serial. One read/write head has always been writing and reading in serial as the platter turned under the head. Right?

 

 

RGone... :confused: as usual.

 

One other note of interest to ponder is what will allow Sata2 speeds in the real world? Think on it. RGone...Again...

[red930]

The drive read/write method is serial by physical construction.

 

IDE stands for Integrated Drive Electronics which moved the controller logic from the mobo or addin card to the drive. Remember MFM and RLE drives anyone?

 

The interface between the drive and computer has been through a parallel cable design consisting of multiple lanes of data that must arrive together at each end of the cable. This required some time be left open so that all the data could be synchronized at either end of the cable.

 

The interface has been parallel until Serial ATA. There is both a physical and logical difference between the two.

 

Serial ATA uses the same type logic but decreases the number of lanes reducing the time overhead required for the multiple lanes of data to arrive in sync. This tighter timing has allowed for the increase in throughput.

[arn_nold]

i just bought a64 3000+ and nf4 ultra-d and i having problem with my cpu temp. they seem not to go up even during torture test and games. this screenshot was taken during 9 hrs of prime95 torture test and i think my readings is too good to be true. before with my 3000+ (754) im getting 55C+. btw im using venus12 and as5 as coolers.

 

i also tried adjusting the speed of my venus12 and nothing happens. the same temp im getting when i set my fan speed to 1500rpm or 5600rpm. weird.

 

 

i already have the latest bios and drivers by the way.