My rant.

[Tjj226_Angel]

Oh yeah. I ordered that involvement. Thanks for assuming. Kind of arrogant of you cause the citizenship of the United States of America does not make those calls or send the orders. This country is only a democracy only on election day. anyhow so where do you find the right to blame me. Its like a Frenchman i once met that blamed me for all our government problem. And i agree you and that douch bag are right about our government. But don't hold me or other people accountable for others actions.

 

I am just a technician and i no longer vote because there is no logical decision in this country and every government, and in every government, official in one way or another is a liar so therefore I keep to myself. And where do you get the idea that I or anyone i hold dear thinks to highly of ourselves and on the fact that we are American. That kind of statement or way of thinking makes you no better then one of the racist cowardly Kkk members. And i can no long begin to express how deeply i am disappointed in that statement you made.

 

Good riddens

 

Hey man, I can respect your feelings, and believe me I have ran into some people in other countries who think I am shi! simply because I am a white American and correlate me to our government so I fully understand where you are coming from, but I do think there is a bit of misunderstanding. I was kind of offended by Stoner boys comment because I do spend my time protesting and lobbying against our government. I do not think highly of myself what so ever, and I have made it very clear that Stonerboy himself is flat out better than me in some areas all together along with several other international members. I try my best not to be the "stupid American" and instead try to be the guy who stands up for what I think is right even if it is against the country that has tried in vein to brainwash me over the years. So Stonerboys comment was a bit personal.

 

At the same time though I don't think he is the one to blame for that comment. If you go to foreign countries, that is exactly how the media portrays us. I mean it is the sad truth. For a long time, South park was considered such an offensive show, that they aired it in Russia to fuel anti American thoughts. I have gone to AUS, and their news media is no different. The media literally portrays Americans (as in civilians) as total moronic fools. If you saw of their stuff boinker, I think you would set all of Australia on fire. If you grow up in that sort of environment, then I really can't blame stoner boy for his comment. I sure as he!! can blame the AUS media for being pretentious A holes, but not stonerboy.

 

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The flip side is directed at stonerboy. You do realize that like 90 percent of people hate government right? I don't even mean political parties I mean government as a whole. Politicians have lower approval scores than my approval sore of Macs. That is just how bad it is. And for the few people who do like their government, they are usually total morons anyways. I would say that a good 70 percent of people here in the US are saying the exact same thing as you are. My mother says what you said pretty much every night. We truly are not stupid fools left in the dark. We know we have a corrupt government, we know the people responsible, and there have many attempts to slay these pricks. I can personally guarantee that if I knew I wasn't going to get shot, I would stand at the front gate of the Capitol building and I would make sure that lindsey Gram and Nany Pelosi would not get in the building and that would probably release all of south africa from our grips in of itself.

 

You and all our international members need to understand that we are better than those we elect. The comment that you made really dragged our faces through the mud, because a lot of us are already annoyed that we can do very little to stop the douche baggery of our own government. I knew what you meant by your comment, and I think a lot of people probably know as well, but it still stings all the same.

[Tjj226_Angel]

I think pretty much sums this up!

 

 

No, really. I am not making that up, t we have a laser that we are testing for WMD interception.

 

 

I know that the project has been tested enough where they say they can at least destroy a nuclear booster rocket over the pacific ocean.

 

If we are using lasers, I can't even begin to think of how many other non star trek based anti WMD tech we have.

[Speedway]

Tj you are special!

[NikoDG]

No, really. I am not making that up, t we have a laser that we are testing for WMD interception.

 

I know that the project has been tested enough where they say they can at least destroy a nuclear booster rocket over the pacific ocean.

 

If we are using lasers, I can't even begin to think of how many other non star trek based anti WMD tech we have.

Here's a quote from The Watchmen, a pretty damn decent movie.

 

"If the Russians do launch their nukes, can Jon really stop them?

The Soviets have 51 warheads stockpiled. Even if Jon stops 99 percent of them, the 1 percent that get through could still kill every living thing on Earth.

Even Dr. Manhattan can't be everywhere at once."

 

Even if the US does have a competent missile defence system, nothing is perfect, especially things made by people. Human error always enters the equation and if a single missile is missed say goodbye

Also, I know that quote has no real bearing on this, I just love that movie

[Stonerboy779]

Sorry Stoner if you misunderstood, but I wasn't saying that managers in the US are special for being on salary + bonus. What I was really saying was that they tend to put in a S ton of hours and that salary isn't always a good thing!

 

I don't know about taxes in Australia, so I have no idea if it was a good choice or not for your father. But I think most people (US or elsewhere) will take a pay increase anytime they can get it

 

But, when it comes to your statement about teachers not giving a f, I have to wholeheartedly disagree. At least in America that is, since admittedly I do not know how it is everywhere else! But here teaching, especially younger kids, is probably the most underpaid job there is. People who go to school to be teachers, know this up front and still do it. I may have had a few teachers here or there who didn't have there whole heart in the job, but for the most part I think teachers really love what they do, at least most of mine did. I think you might have to when going into a profession where you are underpaid, salaried, and work not only during the day, but take it home at night as well. I think most teachers in the US absolutely give a F

Best decision he could make. Our taxes scale with salary so higher salary higher taxes. And the pay rise wouldn't be enough to push us far enough into the next tax bracket to make it worthwhile.

 

Yes teaching is underpaid here however kindergarten teachers get it worse. There are unions trying to get more money for the teachers all the time with primary school and high school teachers being payed far more than kinder teachers even though kinder teachers have more qualifications did a greater range of work experience through uni and far more continual professional development programs.

Despite all this the government seems adamant to treat them like daycare.

 

Schools in my experience and that of my family have continually failed. If you know what autism is you can understand why diagnosing it is very important. My mum who has recommended many children and rightly so to see podiatrists felt she was being to concerned because it was her son (my brother) and because the school never mentioned anything she thought she was over thinking things. Lots of stuff happened the school released privet and sensitive information to others that should never have happened. They denyed it and never en-devoured to help out properly. We left the school went to another saw a specialist who diagnosed my brother. Now he has reached high school and my mum has been into the school so many times to make sure they do things right. he has only been there a few months and they have screwed up in the care they should offer.

 

They either don't know how to deal with it or can't be bothered. The religious education teacher even laughed at my mother over thee phone. So schools have never really treated us right and these have always been private schools where the care is always expected to be greater.

 

/ramble

[d6bmg]

US gets involved everywhere that no one wants them at. Just gonna leave that here.

[Tjj226_Angel]

Tj you are special!

 

Dude, you are being annoying and I do not appreciate your tone. Robert Gates publicly said that even if EVERY SINGLE foreign nuke was launched, we could stop them all before they even reached our air space.

 

I understand your skepticism, but don't make me look like a fool just because you won't believe whatever evidence I give you.

[NikoDG]

Dude, you are being annoying and I do not appreciate your tone. Robert Gates publicly said that even if EVERY SINGLE foreign nuke was launched, we could stop them all before they even reached our air space.

 

I understand your skepticism, but don't make me look like a fool just because you won't believe whatever evidence I give you.

No offense, but just because you say he says something doesn't mean it's true, or even remotely believable. People tend to over-estimate their abilities, so the fact Robert Gates says the US is impervious to nuclear strike doesn't hold much sway with me. The US didn't think someone could hijack their planes and look how that turned out.

[wevsspot]

Yes, but North Korea doesn't have oil so the US has no economical reason to invade them

In reality we don't need an economical reason. Their geographic location directly affects the security and stability of two key US allies, namely South Korea and Japan. Not to mention that in 2009 the North Korean regime publicly threatened to "wipe the United States off the face of the map". I'm proud to be a US citizen and understand the OPs frustration with world events, albeit IMO it is a rather narrow view. I've traveled to many countries around the world on business and when I was in the NG. Many of the countries I visited were charming, and a couple of them even seemed like appealing places to settle long term.

 

What's wrong with thinking "your" country is the best in the world? Nothing wrong with patriotism or even nationalism IMO. If you think Australia, Japan, Canada or any other host of countries is the best in the world because you're a citizen or you've visited there, hey more power to you. I certainly agree with many of everyone's sentiments regarding US meddling in world affairs, it is out of control. But on the other hand, realize that the US, our government, our citizens and corporations (via taxes), our men and women in uniform and our allies are the only things standing as a deterrent between (maybe) your country and others that may have less than altruistic eyes on your natural resources, your population or your strategic location.

 

Of course we could pack up and leave everyone to fend for themselves (in fact I think that is a great plan personally), but many of the people and countries that we would abandon have been allies since the first or second world wars. And, for me that creates a moral dilema. For our European friends you can thank us that you don't live on a continent where everyone gathers at the public square speaking German and hailing whatever regime morphed after the Nazis. For our Asian friends you can thank us that you don't live on a continent or island where everyone gathers at the public square speaking Japanese and eating sushi. For everyone else you can thank the Japanese for bombing Pearl Harbor and directly pulling the United States into the WWII conflict.

 

The fact is the United States disproportionately bears (and has bore) the cost of war and conflict in this world in the 20th century. Hell, the US to this day is the largest contributor to all things UN in both personnel, resources and cash (and by the way IMO that is a huge frickin' waste of resources).

 

Is the US perfect? NO. Are we headed in the wrong directly? YES. Would this world look completely different and would you have been personally impacted without the United States as a player on the worldwide stage? Most likely.

 

 

[NikoDG]

Of course we could pack up and leave everyone to fend for themselves (in fact I think that is a great plan personally), but many of the people and countries that we would abandon have been allies since the first or second world wars. And, for me that creates a moral dilema. For our European friends you can thank us that you don't live on a continent where everyone gathers at the public square speaking German and hailing whatever regime morphed after the Nazis. For our Asian friends you can thank us that you don't live on a continent or island where everyone gathers at the public square speaking Japanese and eating sushi. For everyone else you can thank the Japanese for bombing Pearl Harbor and directly pulling the United States into the WWII conflict.

 

The fact is the United States disproportionately bears (and has bore) the cost of war and conflict in this world in the 20th century. Hell, the US to this day is the largest contributor to all things UN in both personnel, resources and cash (and by the way IMO that is a huge frickin' waste of resources).

 

Is the US perfect? NO. Are we headed in the wrong directly? YES. Would this world look completely different and would you have been personally impacted without the United States as a player on the worldwide stage? Most likely.

Yes, the United States single handedly won World War II saving everyone from cruel life under Hitler's regime. That opinion is not only offensive but it is very self-centered. There were at least a dozen other countries related in that conflict, some of them weren't in direct danger and took part in it from the beginning like Canada. To say that the US is the biggest factor and that everyone owes their thanks... That's the kind of arrogance that makes people dislike American's. Yes, I know it's a stereotype, but as much as stereotypes are wrong people can't help but pay attention to them, there is a reason they exist after all.

 

Also, the world would look completely different if a lot of countries had acted differently. To say one country has a larger impact than any other is very mistaken.

[SpeedCrazy]

Yes, the United States single handedly won World War II saving everyone from cruel life under Hitler's regime. That opinion is not only offensive but it is very self-centered. There were at least a dozen other countries related in that conflict, some of them weren't in direct danger and took part in it from the beginning like Canada. To say that the US is the biggest factor and that everyone owes their thanks... That's the kind of arrogance that makes people dislike American's. Yes, I know it's a stereotype, but as much as stereotypes are wrong people can't help but pay attention to them, there is a reason they exist after all.

 

Also, the world would look completely different if a lot of countries had acted differently. To say one country has a larger impact than any other is very mistaken.

 

Well look at it this way, if the us had not stepped into WWI there would not have been enough of Europe left for there to be a WWII, and Europe was again sinking in WWII until the us came in. That's not to say everyone else wasn't important but just that the us had a large impact. We weren't considered a superpower for nothing.

[Muchoman1]

did noone learn from the parenting thread?