Il_napoletano Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) you have to admit that the styling on a cobalt is ugly... The stylist probably wanted a vw beetle background for his computer..but the pic was too small so he stretched it long ways........then went and made a car called the cobalt ss... edit: spelling Edited February 9, 2012 by Il_napoletano Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 you have to admit that the styling on a cobalt is ugly... The stylist probably wanted a vw beetle background for his computer..but the pic was too small so he stretched it long ways........then went and made a car called the cobalt ss... edit: spelling I see no relation to a VW Bug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoDG Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Lol, this is getting a little silly I think I'd get a Charger R/T AWD if I bought a pony car (that is if a Charger counts of course), and if I ever wanted more horses I could just add a supercharger (yay, aprroximately 475hp/530lb-ft) or maybe a turbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il_napoletano Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I see no relation to a VW Bug. No...they wanted to name the cobalt, the VW cockroach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedCrazy Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I see no relation to a VW Bug. +1 I think i see a troll. Not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjj226_Angel Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 +1 I think i see a troll. Not sure. Even I agree. The closest VW you can get it close to would be the EOS or the new jetta. Even that would be a stretch though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoDG Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 +1 I think i see a troll. Not sure. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewr05 Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Cobalt SS.Are you even trying? The cobalt looks like something a kindergarten kid drew on the back of a napkin. If a rally car is what you are looking for, go buy a Cosworth. They are actually affordable and don't suck. The Cobalt is fast, handles EXTREMELY well, gets great mileage, and looks decent enough. They're also fairly reliable, something you can't say about any Ferrari. Racing soul is what the Cobalt SS has... Please, explain how the Cobalt SS sucks. I'm also all ears for why you brought up rally cars in reference to the Cobalt at all. And how does the Cobalt SS suck? First off it is discontinued. So even Chevy understood how bad it was (that is a joke). However, to get a used one in good condition would cost about 12K. Now lets say that your total budget was 30K for things like a better engine, better suspension, the works. I could go and get a Subaru wrx for about the same price and have a much easier time working on it than the cobalt. Plus if you were looking for a rally car (because the cobalt would be a waste any other way) you could be looking at getting a cosworth for the same money that it would take to modify the cobalt. If you were thinking you were going to race in it, BMW has you beat on almost every aspect. You haven't listed a single reason why the Cobalt "sucks" yet. It is not a rally car. It is not intended to be a rally car. It doesn't need $18k in modifications. A WRX is a completely different kind of car, and doesn't handle anywhere near as well as the Cobalt does. They aren't even in the same class. And comparing one to a BMW? What BMW? I've embarrassed many of them in autocross courses. I really don't understand what your beef with the Cobalt is. You haven't given a single reason to dislike it except for the styling. Its suspension is off, it is made out of cheap materials, it doesn't go fast enough for the price, and for the same price I can get something better like a BMW. The only reason you are quote embarrassing any BMW is probably because the driver is either an idiot, or you have two totally different engine sizes. And yes. The style is horrid. You're not talking about the Cobalt SS in this post. I've only heard worse arguments from theists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercuryDoun Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 NERD RAGE! ALT + F4!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 But American cars just don't have any soul. It is like gee how big of an engine can I fit on a chassis. It sort of reminds me of AMD. INTEL IS STILL FASTER THAN US GRRRRRRRRRRR. I GOT IT WE SHOULD ADD MORE CORES. Hilarious paint drawing here I feel like that is what American cars do too. If the American car is mot faster than a German car around a track, they just add more horse power. However, horse power does not win the race. Things like traction control and suspension are all tossed to the wayside as they add more horse power. That is why Jeremy said, in real word performance the audi is faster. I think American companies literally sit in an office somewhere and go Step 1: more horse power Step 2: ?????? Step 3: PROFIT!!! That is why you end up with Challengers, Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, or a viper. All of these cars really are quite terrible in my mind. I only say that because they are a former shell of what they used to be. Prime example is the mustang. 1969 mustang convertibles are beautiful cars. They tell a story every time you sit in one. The car literally seems to have a life force drawing you in. Since 2000 they have been nothing but crap. Everything is the plastic interior, and sure you can change it and do what ever you want, but that same feel you had in 1969 is gone. It has died. Same with all the rest. Car makers knew that it was the soul of the car that sold those vehicles. I mean look at the audi R8. It is dark and mysterious. It is a sort of cool and calming car. It isn't something you take to the track, it is something you take your wife in to the ball. It is elegant, and that is why Top Gear has a hard time falling in love with it. The Audi R8 is a primp and proper lady, and the problem is that most people just want a car that give them thrills. A primp and proper lady is above thrills if you catch my drift. However, that same intrigue, that same mystery that is oozing from the car is why I would want one myself. Porsche on the other hand is the girl friend you had in high school that you did not want to show your mom. It takes charge and takes you on a wild ride if you treat it right. Make one slip up and it will throw you for a loop, but get the turns right on the track, and you will have a smile on your face. It truly is one of the most fun cars you can own. Ferrari is the essence of a speed lover's child hood. If you were the type of child that would spend every waking moment raising and asking for money to build some sort of box with wheels to go down a hill, Ferrari embodies the holy grail for those people. The car is born from the very desire to go as fast as you can and give you that head rush. The car itself almost holds the same soul of the ten year old kid beaming with excitement to go fast. Do you see where I am going with this? All I feel when I see or am in a Corvette is this sense of conformity. You can almost feel like it was designed by some guy who was working late and really just wanted to go home. I mean you should have seen the video. That flimsy build quality prevents half of us from buying a cheap PC case let alone a car. Everything is just wrong about American cars. Corvettes remind me of a wedge of cheese. Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, all look like they are trying to fight the wind, not cut right through it. To put it in a way you guys can relate to, I see American cars like the design came from some OEM source. To me when I sit in one it doesn't say anything, there is no story, there is no emotional bond between man and machine, there is no inspiration. It is totally devoid of any soul. If someone found a car circa 2000 and up, that they think does have a soul, then we have something to talk about. Otherwise, stop gravitating towards American muscle cars right off the bat, rethink who you are as a car lover, and try to find a car/year/and model that exemplifies your personality. If that car is in fact an American muscle car, then so be it, but also be able to tell us why. And no, "it goes fast" is not a very good reason. This post is exactly why I will never talk cars on a computer forum. To answer the question - 2012 Camaro ZL1 /thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonerboy779 Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I've only heard worse arguments from theists. No the colors ran out...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercuryDoun Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Also TTJ... you REALLY should go get in a brand new Mustang GT before you keep talking like its the same car from the late 90's early 2000's... Because its not. Not at all... Challenger and to some degree the Camaro are still "sub-par" compared to a lot of foreign sports cars. But how DARE you dog the corvette and viper... Two car's that have always held true to supreme performance without having a millionaires budget. The corvette to this day still wrecks an Audi R8 v10 on the track, so goes for the viper versus the R8 v10. Go take a gander over to Top gear UK and look at all those wonderful track times, all posted by the same driver.(The lovely Stig!) EDIT** Corvette Z06 versus R8 v8, Corvette ZR1 versus R8 v10. Base line corvette isn't quite up to the snuff for an R8, but close. Still major price difference between the two cars though. By really, why are you even comparing a Mustang to an Audi R8... Riiight, lets take a $35k car and compare it to a $120k+ car(Yeah, thats STARTING price when it comes to the R8 v8, its over $150k starting if you go for the v10)... Hmm the $120k+ car wins? REALLY, YA DONT SAY? I'd be pretty effin pissed if the car that was 4 times the price(more if v10) wasn't better, and it by a lot at that. How did an R8 even get into this topic!?!?!! PONY CAR, Sometimes words are hard... Edited February 9, 2012 by MercuryDoun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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