picture rant on the liberal art majors and half of the Occupy Wall Str

[imm0rt41]

The only way out of the 99% is to take from the 99%. No poor person has ever stolen from a pension plan.

 

If you want to talk about entitlements just look at military veterans.

That's just capitalism in general, sadly.

 

However poor people don't steal from pension plans partly because lower income jobs often don't have pensions available for workers. I have been lucky so far in that I work for the University I went to so I have been saving for retirement since I was 18...it is really nice knowing I have a large chunk of money available should things get ugly. Let's just say it is enough to live like a king on some Mexican beach for a few years haha

[SpeedCrazy]

about accountability for actions, not the amount of money one may or may not have.....

+1million.

I really did not want to step into this discussion but i think you hit the nail on the head.

If people took responsibility for their own actions and got out of this entitlement attitude America could be great again.

This is one of my pet peeves. The buck starts and stops with you!

Now i admit that is not the only problem here but it is a large problem.

[CheeseMan42]

I feel like you are totally missing the point of the occupy wall street movement. It is not to blame banks for being unemployed, but in fact it is people who want others to take responsibility for their actions. I'm not sure about you, but I personally do not like when anyone can do something that, directly or indirectly, causes others harm and just go about their merry way.

 

While I agree that the banks take part in a lot of shady activity, I also believe that people should be held responsible for their decisions when they make bad decisions. I understand that there are plenty of people that have fallen on hard times due to the economy, and I know that I am lucky to be where I am.

[CowKing]

you don't even have to add apple into a "occupy wall street" image search on google.

 

 

your right, to protest you have to put your crap down, and drink your $3 water

only one? I searched too.

yup, pictures that don't represent the majority.

 

but...you know....tea baggers never use government services of ANY KIND.....I get you.

Edited October 25, 2011 by CowKing

[Deathmineral]

Wouldn't it be better if all those jobless people just pooled their money together and created a Wal-Mart like store where they each can make enough money to live on?

 

I mean I don't have a good grasp on this topic to be honest but to me that seems like a pretty good idea. After all, they're all already in one place, they're clearly motivated to do something at the moment, and they're all sort of on the same side.

 

Protesting probably isn't going to get these people anywhere really, I mean protesting anymore is probably a little bit too peaceful, why would anyone care whether or not these people are occupying wall street? Unless it's a real inconvenience, I don't see why anyone would care what the protestors do.

[damian]

Protesting probably isn't going to get these people anywhere really, I mean protesting anymore is probably a little bit too peaceful, why would anyone care whether or not these people are occupying wall street? Unless it's a real inconvenience, I don't see why anyone would care what the protestors do.

yeah, pretty much.

[wevsspot]

I'd caution against lumping all "banks" into the guilty category. It's more of the investment banks, hedge fund managers, short sellers and shady mortgage brokers that have caused this than your local home town bank. If any thing, this whole mess has made it harder for your local bank to work with you on any financial matter that requires borrowing money. Whether it's money for your business, a much needed new car, or even trying to refinance your house or buy a new one for that matter. Fortunately our local/regional bank has managed to escape most of this unscathed for the most part, their balance sheet is still strong and they have plenty of liquid capital. But that's because they never engaged in the type of risky banking practices that we've seen across the nation.

[wevsspot]

We finally know what the OWS protesters are demanding;

 

credit Douglas Schoen.......

 

"Their Demands Group has put forward their agenda, subsequent to the publication of my poll. And their demands closely mirror what my survey showed they want.

The core essence of their proposals involve $1.5 trillion in new revenue to create 25 million public sector jobs paying union wages, free public transportation, free

university education, a single payer health care system and other initiatives. They also favor "reappropriating our business structures and culture, putting people and

the earth before profit."

 

Further, they want to end free trade, spend a trillion additional dollars on environmental programs, and forgive all debt. My survey showed that quite clearly, the

Occupy Wall Street group endorses these principles. Specifically, 65% agreed that government has a moral responsibility to guarantee health care, college

education and retirement, no matter what the cost. Seventy percent favor greater regulation of the economy, and 75% support more protectionist trade legislation.

Finally, 77% want to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans, and 58% oppose raising taxes on everyone else."

 

Hey, those all sound like reasonable expectations

[SpeedCrazy]

An unofficial, user submitted list of demands revealed the socialistic utopian fantasy held by some proponents of Occupy Wall Street. Here are just a few of that person’s demands:

 

“…raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.”

“Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment”

“Free college education.”

“Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans!”

 

 

LOL, utopian fantasy indeed. So basically they are saying they want to do nothing and live just as well off as those of us who work out tails off? They need to pack up, go home, get a life, and grow up.

[TheHippi]

LOL, utopian fantasy indeed. So basically they are saying they want to do nothing and live just as well off as those of us who work out tails off? They need to pack up, go home, get a life, and grow up.

Do I need to post what some radical tea partier's utopian fantasy(in other words, Ron Paul)? Your always going to have radicals within a movement that don't reflect what the majority wants.

 

I actually agree with a lot of OWS's official agenda. Our infrastructure is so bad that you could easily employ a few million people to get it back up to an acceptable level. A free education should be a birthright in my opinion, and Obama's so-call health-care "reform" didn't fix anything. I don't believe in forgiving all debt, but debt due to predatory lending should at least not collect interest.

[Deathmineral]

Do I need to post what some radical tea partier's utopian fantasy(in other words, Ron Paul)? Your always going to have radicals within a movement that don't reflect what the majority wants.

 

I actually agree with a lot of OWS's official agenda. Our infrastructure is so bad that you could easily employ a few million people to get it back up to an acceptable level. A free education should be a birthright in my opinion, and Obama's so-call health-care "reform" didn't fix anything. I don't believe in forgiving all debt, but debt due to predatory lending should at least not collect interest.

We have free education, that up to high school, which is deemed as necessary education. Anything beyond high school is advanced education pretty much.

 

Really, college isn't so much about education anyway, if you're really just wanting to learn, the internet could allow you to do that just fine. College is just there to give you a piece a paper to flash at employers really.

 

Having the government control every little thing in our lives is exactly what we DON'T need. Personally I think health care regulated by the government is a terrible idea for everyone involved.

[fire_storm]

LOL, utopian fantasy indeed. So basically they are saying they want to do nothing and live just as well off as those of us who work out tails off? They need to pack up, go home, get a life, and grow up.

 

I don't think those things are what the movement is all about those request sound like they are coming from a radical part of the movement which I doubt represents everyone protesting

 

We have free education, that up to high school, which is deemed as necessary education. Anything beyond high school is advanced education pretty much.

 

Really, college isn't so much about education anyway, if you're really just wanting to learn, the internet could allow you to do that just fine. College is just there to give you a piece a paper to flash at employers really.

 

Having the government control every little thing in our lives is exactly what we DON'T need. Personally I think health care regulated by the government is a terrible idea for everyone involved.

 

High school is hardly an education years ago you use to be able to get out of high school and get a decent job nowadays all a high school degree is just a key to get into college

Edited October 26, 2011 by fire_storm