Angry_Games Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 So...i have onuroztuncer's mobo, 3000+, and some KVR memory to test...KVR stuff stinks and is bad @ default in memtest and wont load windows or run windows to save a life. so Onur decides to buy Ultra-X 2x512MB 3200 TCCD (brainpower pcb) and ship it direct to me from GEIL. it gets here, and its same stuff ViperJohn has a bunch of, and will all do 300FSB pretty easily (and he even borrowed my 3200+ and tested with his GEIL and blammo it does it easy). but see, I'm having this problem...it won't do over 240 @ 2.5-4-7-3 etc etc on Onur's board...so I put it in MY Ultra-D, knowing what TCCD will do on it (having just pulled a 9h prime95 and memtest stable 275x9 4200EL OCZ kit out of it) it starts failing @ 240... now...both rigs run it @ 200 (default) for 4+ hours on memtest. on 1/25 on 2/09 on 3/10 on 3/16 (alpha bios we testing) wont do more than 240 on any bios on any board (wont even get stable on my board @ 240). 250 = instant 356,000 errors in memtest lol. *oh, and btw, i tried setting both rigs from 250x6 up to 250x9, nothing no matter what the cpu multi* so i crank it up to 3.2v...and still it gives me hell...both boards, all 4 bioses. but i saw that it would only get about 368 errors in test #5 @ 3.2v this is 2 days later btw, and im gettin sorta pissed because I'm thinking that Onur just blew a few hundred bucks on some Ultra-X that maybe really sucked...or had Hynix IC's (which only suck on the NF4 at the moment for some reason). but being mr angry who cant sleep until whats done is done...decides to crank up the vdimm to 3.3v hrmm...passes @ 250...and @ 260 (2.5-4-8-4 hehe) now im wondering...3.3v @ 260...maybe it will do 2-3-8-2 blammo it does it so i start getting this crazy notion in my head that somehow maybe i got some Ultra-X (they just came off the line) and it aint no longer TCCD...that i sniffed enough electrical cleaner to believe I might have whatever is on the VX chips... 3.4 and I drop everything down to 2-2-8-2 @ 260x8 and here is what i have so far (about 35 minutes ago i took this pic) (and ya i have a fan RIGHT on top of the memory and vdimm area lol) so my friends what do you all think? again, this is Ultra-X 3200 2x512MB that GEIL direct-shipped me @ customer's request... Ultra-D 3/16 alpha bios (but it will do it on 3/10 too) 3000+ Winchester / 3200+ Winchester OCZ 420w Powerstream 2x512MB GEIL Ultra-X Leadtek 6600GT Crazy_Angry No Sleep 4x can you fellow VX / TwinMOS owners post yer settings for me? I've never had my hands on that type of RAM (only BH-5 which is similar). I want to really get to the bottom of what this is without stripping the heatspreaders off the modules. Muchas Gracias for helping me, ViperJohn, and onuroztuncer out (he's gonna get a happy overclock stored in CMOS Reloaded for all of his trouble lol) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big B Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 Do you know if this applies to the Geil PC4000 2x512MB stuff? I'm just asking because that's what I'm looking at when I build my Ultra-D rig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzSnoal Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 I got some VX PC4000. I am struggling to get it to its rated setting, see my post here. http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7626 I did note that as I increased VDimm voltage, memtest would stop spamming the screen with errors. Still not stable at 250MHz though, but have booted into windows at 2-2-2-8. Chris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElixXx Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 this is my settings for my TM SP going 250mhz 2-2-2-5-1T @ 3.4v. 10x250 LTD/FSB ratio: 3 LTD Bus Volt: 1.30 Chipset: 1.50 DRAM Volt: 3.40 _______________ CPC Enabled Tcl (cas) 2.0 TRCD: 02 TRAS: 05 TRP: 02 TRC: 07 TRFC: 15 TRRD: 02 TWR: 02 TWTR: 01 TRWT: 01 TREF: 3072 TWCL: AUTO DQS Skew Contol: Increase Skew DQS Skew Value: 0 DRAM Drive Strength: LEVEL 6 DRAM Data Drive Strength: LEVEL 4 Max Async Latency: Auto Read Preamble Time: Auto Dynamic counter: Disable R/W Queue Bypass: 08 X Bypass Max: 04 X 32 Byte Granualarity: Disable (8 bursts) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Games Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 well well...i cranked it back up to 260x9 (9x is a 3000+'s default multi) left it running while i slept... you guys tell me what you think this is... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooztuncer Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 well well...i cranked it back up to 260x9 (9x is a 3000+'s default multi) you guys tell me what you think this is... let me tell you: this is ur success story!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Games Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 installing WindowsXP Pro on it right now just for kicks to see what will happen (260x9 @ 2-2-8-2) i only wish i had realized this was NOT TCCD 2 days ago lol...i spent 2+ days trying to use TCCD settings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperJohn Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 installing WindowsXP Pro on it right now just for kicks to see what will happen (260x9 @ 2-2-8-2) i only wish i had realized this was NOT TCCD 2 days ago lol...i spent 2+ days trying to use TCCD settings! It now looks like if you have new build Geil 3200 UltraX with serial numbes of 500xxxx or later you will have Winbond BH5 chips. Serial numbers in the 400xxxx range had TCCD. Geil had 100's of 1000's of 400xxxx serials remaning to use when they suddenly abandoned the 4000 range and jumped the the 5000 range serial numbers. Viper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezer26 Posted March 19, 2005 Posted March 19, 2005 The one 512MB stick I have for sale is TCCD according to Viper's info, my serial is 4000339, and I got these from the egg about hmmm, maybe a month ago!! You scared me when you took the voltage up to 3.3vdimm....but now I am ok knowing that yours are not TCCD.... I am not Mr. memory or anything and probably haven't tested 1% of the ram most people on here have, but this is some really, really good ram....plus they are fun to look at!! I wish more Comp. parts were this shiny!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperJohn Posted March 19, 2005 Posted March 19, 2005 installing WindowsXP Pro on it right now just for kicks to see what will happen (260x9 @ 2-2-8-2) i only wish i had realized this was NOT TCCD 2 days ago lol...i spent 2+ days trying to use TCCD settings! Well I just tried one stick from the 5000159's Geil UltraX I have in my 250GB and all I can say is they are GARBAGE!!! With my 4000162's I can run 300Mhz with 2.5, 4, 9, 3 at 2.90 Vdimm. With these 5000159's I can't even get into Memtest at 200Mhz with 2, 2, 5, 2 with less than 2.80 Vdimm. Viper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezer26 Posted March 19, 2005 Posted March 19, 2005 Are the 5000xxx serials everywhere now, or where is everyone getting these from?? And will someone slap Geil in the face!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperJohn Posted March 19, 2005 Posted March 19, 2005 Are the 5000xxx serials everywhere now, or where is everyone getting these from?? And will someone slap Geil in the face!! Ordered my last set (the 5000159's) from BuyXG on 2/23/05. They were backordered and then drop shipped straight from Geil on 3/10/05 and I recieved them 3/14/05. I would have to say the reason they were back ordered in late february was because Geil was right in the middle of the chip change about that time. Viper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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