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#1 Velin

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 05:21 PM

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I am building a new computer, I have everything picked out except for the RAM modules. With this build understand that it will be used for high end gaming and audio production DAW Software ie (Ableton Live 9)

 

 

CPU: Core i-7 5820k
MB: MSI X99S Gaming 9 ACK LGA 2011-v3
RAM: ???
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What I would like to know is if I should go with DDR4 RAM Modules or if I should go with the highest frequency DDR3 Modules I can afford for 16 or 32 GB, once again I will be using my computer for high end gaming and DAW software that can be pretty CPU intensive, in the past I have had problems with my DAW software crashing on me, which lead me to buy a Mac for a while. However now I really want to try Windows 10 when it releases and have a gaming computer as well. Let me know what your thoughts would be when it comes to RAM for my needs? Low timing, OC Speed, anything you could think of that would allow me to run my DAW Software as stable as possible without having Stability issues. Anyways Thanks in advance I can't wait to hear your responses!



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Posted 28 April 2015 - 05:29 PM

That motherboard only supports DDR4, so that settles it right there.

 

Going with something like 16GB would be a good starting point, or up to 32GB right away like you said. Can go from there on timings, speed, and the like. Don't need to go right to the maximum speed right away, so something like DDR4-2400 would work.


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Posted 28 April 2015 - 06:55 PM

if your only doing audio work and gaming, I cant see you needing more than 16Gb for a very long time.

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231797

 

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 08:56 PM

These will do fine: http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 12:38 PM

if your only doing audio work and gaming, I cant see you needing more than 16Gb for a very long time.

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231797

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231822

Ok so these actually first got my attention when I was shopping, However then I saw a sell for HyperX RAM 4x4 2666 

 

http://www.newegg.co...4-526-_-Product

 

Now the timing on those is pretty awesome, but Also The GSkill RipJaws say they are designed and optimized for the X99 chipset, now is that a marketing scheme or do you think that GSkill delivers a more reliable product? I'm stuck between these two HyperX for the discount with my Processor, or Gskill, they are cheaper, but the timing isn't as good? Let me know what you think about these two different Models of RAM.



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Posted 29 April 2015 - 01:12 PM

RAM is RAM, so get whatever that's compatible and won't break the bank.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 02:43 PM

Now the timing on those is pretty awesome, but Also The GSkill RipJaws say they are designed and optimized for the X99 chipset, now is that a marketing scheme or do you think that GSkill delivers a more reliable product? I'm stuck between these two HyperX for the discount with my Processor, or Gskill, they are cheaper, but the timing isn't as good? Let me know what you think about these two different Models of RAM.


Optimized for x99 just means Quad Channel (aka 4 sticks). It was the same for X79 when I got my 64GB kit.  I personally love Gskill and wouldn't switch to anything else unless the price was right. Kingston makes very reliable products but the HyperX line has always been a bit more expensive for my tastes. Now that $75 off promo combo will bring it to nearly the same price.

 

As for timmings, it seems for DDR4 . CAS 15 seems nearly the lowest they go right now so the sweet spot is 2666 @ 15 based on a few benchmarks I was looking at awhile ago. Now it looks like kingston has just made a break through with the HyperX. I would personally go with that since it's a good brand and tight timmings.

 

Also keep in mind anything over 2133 is overclocking and @ 3000 your CPU will have a pretty beefy overclock from what i've read. Most people tend to clock it down to 2800 or 2666 anyways so it seems pointless to go for faster unless..once again the price is right or plan to overclock a lot.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 02:45 PM

 

Now the timing on those is pretty awesome, but Also The GSkill RipJaws say they are designed and optimized for the X99 chipset, now is that a marketing scheme or do you think that GSkill delivers a more reliable product? I'm stuck between these two HyperX for the discount with my Processor, or Gskill, they are cheaper, but the timing isn't as good? Let me know what you think about these two different Models of RAM.


Optimized for x99 just means Quad Channel (aka 4 sticks). It was the same for X79 when I got my 64GB kit.  I personally love Gskill and wouldn't switch to anything else unless the price was right. Kingston makes very reliable products but the HyperX line has always been a bit more expensive for my tastes. Now that $75 off promo combo will bring it to nearly the same price.

 

As for timmings, it seems for DDR4 . CAS 15 seems nearly the lowest they go right now so the sweet spot is 2666 @ 15 based on a few benchmarks I was looking at awhile ago. Now it looks like kingston has just made a break through with the HyperX. I would personally go with that since it's a good brand and tight timmings.

 

Also keep in mind anything over 2133 is overclocking and @ 3000 your CPU will have a pretty beefy overclock from what i've read. Most people tend to clock it down to 2800 or 2666 anyways so it seems pointless to go for faster unless..once again the price is right or plan to overclock a lot.

 

That's a great answer!!! Thank you! Alright I will probably go with the Kingston RAM if that offer stays up for when I'm ready to buy everything!! Thank you so much, that was everything I needed to hear!



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Posted 29 April 2015 - 03:32 PM

 

 

Now the timing on those is pretty awesome, but Also The GSkill RipJaws say they are designed and optimized for the X99 chipset, now is that a marketing scheme or do you think that GSkill delivers a more reliable product? I'm stuck between these two HyperX for the discount with my Processor, or Gskill, they are cheaper, but the timing isn't as good? Let me know what you think about these two different Models of RAM.


Optimized for x99 just means Quad Channel (aka 4 sticks). It was the same for X79 when I got my 64GB kit.  I personally love Gskill and wouldn't switch to anything else unless the price was right. Kingston makes very reliable products but the HyperX line has always been a bit more expensive for my tastes. Now that $75 off promo combo will bring it to nearly the same price.

 

As for timmings, it seems for DDR4 . CAS 15 seems nearly the lowest they go right now so the sweet spot is 2666 @ 15 based on a few benchmarks I was looking at awhile ago. Now it looks like kingston has just made a break through with the HyperX. I would personally go with that since it's a good brand and tight timmings.

 

Also keep in mind anything over 2133 is overclocking and @ 3000 your CPU will have a pretty beefy overclock from what i've read. Most people tend to clock it down to 2800 or 2666 anyways so it seems pointless to go for faster unless..once again the price is right or plan to overclock a lot.

 

That's a great answer!!! Thank you! Alright I will probably go with the Kingston RAM if that offer stays up for when I'm ready to buy everything!! Thank you so much, that was everything I needed to hear!

 

And why not get the sticks I mentioned for waaaaay cheaper?


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 05:42 PM

for one thats only 2 sticks so dual channel and second its 2400 @ CAS 16 (ew). Now the difference isn't big enough to matter but why not have better overclock abilities and said benfits for $50?

 

edit: now if the ops wants to go the cheapest 32gb route, than yes that would be the best choice. Gskills 32gb (same specs) kit is $333.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 05:50 PM

for one thats only 2 sticks so dual channel and second its 2400 @ CAS 16 (ew). Now the difference isn't big enough to matter but why not have better overclock abilities and said benfits for $50?

Because that's $50 for no discernible performance benefits in real life usage, memory overclocking is the biggest waste of time or money for actual performance benefits. That $50 would assuredly be better spent elsewhere, like a bigger SSD or better graphics card. More memory, maybe could be useful, but not faster. (In which case I'd say get these)

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 05:55 PM

for one thats only 2 sticks so dual channel and second its 2400 @ CAS 16 (ew). Now the difference isn't big enough to matter but why not have better overclock abilities and said benfits for $50?

 

edit: now if the ops wants to go the cheapest 32gb route, than yes that would be the best choice. Gskills 32gb (same specs) kit is $333.

 

Yeah, if he wants 32GB then picking up two of the ones IVI recommended is the way to go. If he only wants 16GB and quad channel, it's best to get a quad channel kit for that. If you're already planning to go the X99 route, why stay with dual channel RAM when you can run quad? Eight total DIMM slots on the board, so better to go with four sticks at the start and see where that gets you.


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