ccokeman Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 How difficult is it to remove the IHS? Anybody has seen temperature differences between watercooling with IHS and without it? Be curious to see how much of a difference there is. The hammer and vice method is what I used for my friends chip. I personally feel this is a safer method because the razor method just needs a slip of the hand to totally brick your cpu. For one a 6 minute test barely even heats up the chip. Two he did not take off the adhesive. Three, the main difference in temperatures is not seen strictly by the TIM change but by the reduction of the distance between the IHS and the core when you remove the sealing material. And really there is no way in hell I am sticking a chip in a vise! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporX Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 I love these people, they have nothing better to do with their money than risk a $300 CPU to gain a few degress C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjj226_Angel Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 How difficult is it to remove the IHS? Anybody has seen temperature differences between watercooling with IHS and without it? Be curious to see how much of a difference there is. The hammer and vice method is what I used for my friends chip. I personally feel this is a safer method because the razor method just needs a slip of the hand to totally brick your cpu. For one a 6 minute test barely even heats up the chip. Two he did not take off the adhesive. Three, the main difference in temperatures is not seen strictly by the TIM change but by the reduction of the distance between the IHS and the core when you remove the sealing material. And really there is no way in hell I am sticking a chip in a vise! When I did mine, I got rid of the adhesive with a old gift card. I am not so sure about the distance thing. I replaced my TIM with artic silver 5. I am still questioning if I applied it right, and I would question if there is a height difference at all. So far I have lost 5 degrees. Even at 4.7 with a crap ton of water cooling, I was getting pretty high temps. ~80C while playing games at stock and I reduced it to 75C. When I get the time to put some decent TIM on it, I might lower the temps even more. I am not saying you are wrong, all I am saying is that my experience has been completely different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_cow Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 for video editing. I love the 3630k with 64gb of ram . not many full watercooling choices for a motherboard on the 2011 but it still beats any other CPU until the new Haswell 6/8 cores come out sometime Q3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 Tjj - the 2700K has onboard video. Water cooling for Ivy and Haswell isn't worth it without removing the IHS IMO. The stock gap just kills thermal dissipation when overclocking. Correct on the i7 2700K. (I seem to remember that there was a chip that they removed the video because the video did not work somehow.....any ideas which chip that was, because this is going to bother me) Wrong on the water cooling. I am currently upgrading my mobo at the moment. Once my new board arrives in the mail, I will be happy to show you temp differences. With air cooling (coming from the NH-D14) the temps would simply spike way up high, and that would be the end of the OC. With water cooling, the temps were a bit more stable and so long as you did not pass ~1.45 volts, the temps would not get too high too quickly. Even with lower OCs (1.25v @ 4.5ghz) The water cooling was about 10-15 degrees better than air cooling. I have a 4770K. I think you're insane if you think 1.45 volts will be cool with any kind of cooling without removing the IHS. Even at 1.3v and with water cooling temps hit 95+ C at 4.6 GHz... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braegnok Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) I do not see how you could run 1.45vCore on the 4770K with any air cooled Rad water cooling loop and keep temps at a safe level under heavy usage. You might shave 10c off by useing one of them Wart-Remover injection blocks. Edited July 4, 2013 by Braegnok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indevious Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 After a bunch more research I think I might change things up a bit and go AMD. I have always been a AMD fanboy but this time around almost went with Intel. Here is what I am looking at getting now. CPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284 MOBO: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131876 RAM: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233252 PSU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014 OS HD: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193 HDD 2: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840 Vid Card: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003 If you guys could help me put together a watercooling system for it that would be great. I am not really sure what fittings, how much tubing, and sizes to get. For the block i was looking at >> http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14191/ex-blc-972/XSPC_RayStorm_High_Performance_Acetal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_AMD_Sockets_AM2_AM2_AM3_FM1.html?tl=g30c323s1205 I have no clue on the rest such as a Rad, pump, and as mentioned all the needed fittings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroFight Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 I think Dave is selling off some 7970s for $275 USD which would offer you much improved performance... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indevious Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Dave are you around? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroFight Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Here's a link to the thread : http://forums.overclockersclub.com/index.php?showtopic=196466&page=1&do=findComment&comment=98 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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