4Ghz Overclocked Core i7 930 Bundle deal

[dennis.resevfan]

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct...._source=froogle

 

I just found this while looking up Core i7 930 Prices.

 

It's a bundle deal including basically the same parts as I had intended to buy seperately (Only difference is the ram. Same amount. Same speed. Different make.). The price is almost identical to the total if I buy them seperately.

 

And the processor is apparantly pre-overclocked to 4Ghz.

 

Should I get this?

 

I have two main concerns:

 

1. Will the overclock seriously reduce the processor lifespan? When I buy a processor, I want it to last for several years. Will it be a problem? If someone could give me a general idea of how long the processor would last me without dying, it would be appreciated.

 

2. How hot will it get? They've given a list of CPU coolers to choose from, but I've found websites saying that water cooling unit can't handle high overclocks on a Core i7. Should I go for the Noctua air cooler? What temperatures could I expect with that? I've been having trouble finding temperature benchmarks for a 930 at 4Ghz.

 

I'd also appreciate any other advice you could give me. I've never manually overclocked myself. Should I expect problems? One of the comments on the reviews page (on that website) is saying that someone got BSODs due to the overclock. Why would that happen if it's been pre-overclocked and supposedly tested? Surely that's grounds to RMA the bundle and get another one?

 

My intent is to use the system for serious gaming. Should I go for it? I'm mostly worried about how much heat will be produced and what lifespan it's going to have.

[dling]

You should be able to get 4gig with that cpu by using most any good x58 motherboard.

[dennis.resevfan]

You should be able to get 4gig with that cpu by using most any good x58 motherboard.

 

That's not what I asked though.

 

I said the bundle has the same parts as I was going to buy anyway. But it's pre-overclocked and thus has a warranty at 4Ghz clock speed. For the same price as it would be non-overclocked.

 

The overclocking would be done for me. I don't have to do that. I don't have to worry about it being possible or not.

 

What I want to know is whether the CPU is going to burn out after a year or something ridiculous like that.

 

How much will the lifespan be decreased?

 

And how hot would it get when at 4Ghz? What cooler do I need? The only choices are listed on that page. I think the Noctua is probably best, but I don't know a lot about coolers.

[dling]

I dont think its pre-overclocked. You would have to do the overclocking your self. I think they are saying it will do 4gig with that set up.

The mother board is not coming to you with all the setting pre set. Again that cpu will overclock to 4 gig most likely with any good mother board.

As far as life of proc. they are all different. It may last for years or days.

 

Edit- I stand corrected. It says pre oc'ed. Sorry.

The life is still up in the air. The higher the temps the shorter the life

Edited April 26, 2010 by dling

[dennis.resevfan]

I dont think its pre-overclocked. You would have to do the overclocking your self. I think they are saying it will do 4gig with that set up.

The mother board is not coming to you with all the setting pre set. Again that cpu will overclock to 4 gig most likely with any good mother board.

As far as life of proc. they are all different. It may last for years or days.

 

 

"This bundle ships pre-built and pre-overclocked direct from our Technical Department. All you need to do is attach the CPU cooler and power it up."

 

is what the product info page says. I thought pre-overclocked literally meant that the BIOS settings are saved on the motherboard so that it really is already overclocked to 4Ghz?

 

I want to get that particular motherboard so I can use Crossfire in future. I just got myself a HD5870 2GB Toxic edition, so if I can pick up another later on, that will kick butt.

 

I would be getting that motherboard with or without the overclocked processor.

[paulktreg]

The Noctua is the better choice and with decent case cooling I wouldn't worry about the CPU burning out.

 

If the complete system price is the same as you could buy the parts individually then go for it, why not. I would however say that if the system does prove to be unstable, and it's possible that Overclockers UK miss something, you really need to know how to put things right which does require a basic level of over-clocking knowledge. If you can shop around and get the parts cheaper elsewere and overclock it yourself I'm sure you'll find the experience more rewarding. I wouldn't worry too much about hitting 4GHz because most if not all i7 930's will do it on the right motherboard.

[dennis.resevfan]

Case cooling? Well... I have a 400mm case side fan, a 120mm front panel fan (but it's blowing through my HDD cage), 120mm rear exhaust fan, power supply fan, and another fan at the front of the case, but it can't really intake air well at all because it's blocked by the LCD control panel on the case front.

 

That and the Noctua. Should that be ok? What kind of temperatures would I get, do you reckon? Just a ballpark figure, if you can?

 

As for finding the parts for a cheaper price, I'm not sure I can. They were on ebuyer.com for just about the SAME price. The motherboard at least is now out of stock on ebuyer. It's pretty hard to find cheap hardware in the UK. There's bugger all reliable sources to buy it from. If you have any suggestions I'd be glad to hear them.

 

The other reason I like the look of the bundle is that since I wouldn't be doing the overclocking myself, it doesn't void the warranty on the processor. But I'm not sure how long the warranty is. The page mentions one though.

 

As for overclocking knowledge, I do know how to alter clock speeds and voltages in the BIOS. I guess that's what you mean? I think it's more complicated with a Core i7 though... There's no mention of multipliers in the BIOS I use with my current Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66Ghz.

Edited April 26, 2010 by dennis.resevfan

[Drdeath]

If it is overclocked by their technical department no problem. No biggie all you do is save it in the bios and overclock some more. If you are happy with the overclock simply leave it alone. It will not do any harm however, I would stress test it to ensure the temps are nice. Most recommend to stay under 75 full load.

 

Overclocking will not harm the chip as long as the temps are respectable. It is heat that degrdates a chip and I would think they will have a overclock with rather low voltages. If not you can tune the overclock down and lower voltage.

 

Go for it! :thumbs-up:

Edited April 27, 2010 by Drdeath

[cirro]

Don't buy that for retail prices basically. Think about it, If it's OC'd someone has already most likely found the peak of its power and said "not lets sell this" also, you don't kow how far they have taken it, or what kind of care has gone into it..

 

don't get someones "oh this is a okay chip to OC" used sytem!

[Drdeath]

Don't buy that for retail prices basically. Think about it, If it's OC'd someone has already most likely found the peak of its power and said "not lets sell this" also, you don't kow how far they have taken it, or what kind of care has gone into it..

 

don't get someones "oh this is a okay chip to OC" used sytem!

 

 

??? I don't get what you said. The bundle is new not used...... The company is pre overclocking it..... I would get it. It is a 930 and they overclock nicely... Check the companies reputation would be the best advise.

Edited April 27, 2010 by Drdeath

[dihartnell]

That's not what I asked though.

 

I said the bundle has the same parts as I was going to buy anyway. But it's pre-overclocked and thus has a warranty at 4Ghz clock speed. For the same price as it would be non-overclocked.

 

The overclocking would be done for me. I don't have to do that. I don't have to worry about it being possible or not.

 

What I want to know is whether the CPU is going to burn out after a year or something ridiculous like that.

 

How much will the lifespan be decreased?

 

And how hot would it get when at 4Ghz? What cooler do I need? The only choices are listed on that page. I think the Noctua is probably best, but I don't know a lot about coolers.

 

Decent mobo, memory and CPU, and preoverclocked. Whats not to like. I see it comes wiht a Titan Fenrir HSF. They are ok but a prolimatech Megahalems/Noctua NF-P12 fans or a Noctua D14 (comes with fans) would be better to control temps. Also good case with plenty airflow like Coolermaster Sniper and Corsair XH 60/750 power supply.

[dennis.resevfan]

Decent mobo, memory and CPU, and preoverclocked. Whats not to like. I see it comes wiht a Titan Fenrir HSF. They are ok but a prolimatech Megahalems/Noctua NF-P12 fans or a Noctua D14 (comes with fans) would be better to control temps. Also good case with plenty airflow like Coolermaster Sniper and Corsair XH 60/750 power supply.

 

 

Yeah, the Megahalems would have been my first choice if I was buying the parts seperately.

 

It's not an option with this bundle, but I imagine the Noctua would give similar results?

 

Overclockers UK has a generally good reputation, for actual products.

 

Reports about their RMA and technical support are mixed. Most of what I have heard about them is good though.

 

The only options for coolers that I have are either the Titan Fenrir, the Noctua NH-U12P SE2, or that watercooling unit, which I've heard some bad things about.

 

So, what should I get? Is the NH-U12P SE2 actually much better than the Fenrir?

 

My power supply is a Corsair 950 TX. It's new and there's no way I'm buying another one unless it's faulty. I can't see it being insufficient for the task with 950W!

 

So, anyone know how the coolers compare?

 

And is there a benchmark for temperatures with various heatsinks anywhere? I saw something like that but it wasn't for an overclocked Core i7.