Crawlerz246 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 hello Overclockers! I have a question for the community. I am planning to buy a self-built system out of components, one of them being an i7. Most of the components are already chosen. Three are bought. Chosen: CPU - i7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115202 mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813186169 RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231225 Bought and using in P.O.S. DELL: video - Radeon 4890 1GB PSU - P&C 910W continuous nonmodular 80mm fan (monster of a thing - cables hang out of the DELL tower like a huge python) HDD - 640GB caviar black what question remains... cooling. I would like to overclock the i7 when I buy it. obviously I am on a tight budget. I was planning to buy a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835233029 fan/cooler. yesterday I saw some cases online @ compusa.com and some had liquid cooling. I started to drool... and obviously now I'm wondering what is better - the air cooler or the liquid system (which obviously cools more). since I'm a noob there are things I don't know ... -does liquid cooling use water? -is it better to buy liquid cooling already in a case or buy a separate case and a separate liquid cooling system? -do things like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835108082 already come with hoses and all the lines to run through the PC? -can you please explain the princible of water cooling and whether I should get it as compaired to the fan. -it obviously takes up tons of space. I'm planning to buy either a Antec 900 or a coolermaster HAF case. HAF has bigger fans. does that count in the water cooling equation? -water cooling is a closed system, right? so it has no lines coming TO it besides the circle of water throught the pump, right? it's entirely self-contained? I thank you for your time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_TheAlexO Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 hello Overclockers! I have a question for the community. I am planning to buy a self-built system out of components, one of them being an i7. Most of the components are already chosen. Three are bought. Chosen: CPU - i7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115202 mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813186169 RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231225 Bought and using in P.O.S. DELL: video - Radeon 4890 1GB PSU - P&C 910W continuous nonmodular 80mm fan (monster of a thing - cables hang out of the DELL tower like a huge python) HDD - 640GB caviar black what question remains... cooling. I would like to overclock the i7 when I buy it. obviously I am on a tight budget. I was planning to buy a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835233029 fan/cooler. yesterday I saw some cases online @ compusa.com and some had liquid cooling. I started to drool... and obviously now I'm wondering what is better - the air cooler or the liquid system (which obviously cools more). since I'm a noob there are things I don't know ... -does liquid cooling use water? -is it better to buy liquid cooling already in a case or buy a separate case and a separate liquid cooling system? -do things like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835108082 already come with hoses and all the lines to run through the PC? -can you please explain the princible of water cooling and whether I should get it as compaired to the fan. -it obviously takes up tons of space. I'm planning to buy either a Antec 900 or a coolermaster HAF case. HAF has bigger fans. does that count in the water cooling equation? -water cooling is a closed system, right? so it has no lines coming TO it besides the circle of water throught the pump, right? it's entirely self-contained? I thank you for your time. i dont know what the guidlines for "tight budget" are but, chances are you wont be able to get a water cooling setup thats any good on a "tight budget" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerz246 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 i dont know what the guidlines for "tight budget" are but, chances are you wont be able to get a water cooling setup thats any good on a "tight budget" that;s what I figured. but hypothetically, lets assume I have all the money in the world and then some. what's a good water-cooling solution, how does it function (what parts does it involve), and can I overclock a i7 with a dark knight fan without burning a hole in it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikesnow Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) if your only water cooling just the CPU there are many many affordable kits on the market these days, and by affordable I mean in the 200 dollar range. Companies to check out might be Danger Den, Koolance, Swifttech, Thermaltake, Corsair, and i am sure i am missing some others. I personally watercool everything now lol and i prolly have close to 1500 in just my water kit so you can get out of control with it. To be more specific here are some links of full kits that should come with everything you need. Danger Den Kit Swiftech Kit Koolance Kit Corsair Kit Thermaltake Kit The koolance one don't come with a cpu block so that make it the most expenssive of all the options, you'll just need to read and make sure it comes with proper mounting hardware for your cpu and you should be good. Edited July 20, 2009 by Bigfwd69 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boinker Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 Here is a guide that one of our users made. Its got alot of good info that you could dive into that would help you dicide. Pinned Guide of Watercooling in section "Overclocking and Cooling" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerz246 Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 Here is a guide that one of our users made. Its got alot of good info that you could dive into that would help you dicide. Pinned Guide of Watercooling in section "Overclocking and Cooling" thank you. looked at a youtube of a coolant leak - turned me off of water cooling (I always had it in the back of my mind) and YES I know there are NONconductants out there. too much money for things if you ask me. I guess what I'm sayin' is: -will the Dark Knight fan+heatsink be enough for an i7 overclock? -IF I want water cooling, is it OK to buy cases with cooling built in? or is that for noobs (which I believe I am) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copie Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 thank you. looked at a youtube of a coolant leak - turned me off of water cooling (I always had it in the back of my mind) and YES I know there are NONconductants out there. too much money for things if you ask me. I guess what I'm sayin' is: -will the Dark Knight fan+heatsink be enough for an i7 overclock? -IF I want water cooling, is it OK to buy cases with cooling built in? or is that for noobs (which I believe I am) As a general rule the premade kits are pretty dodgey and some are no better then a decent air cooler (TT for example) as for leaks, so long as you use quality components, (danger den, swiftech etc) you shouldnt have an issue, i did my first ever cooling loop not to long ago with zero issues and turned out alot better then what i expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerz246 Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 As a general rule the premade kits are pretty dodgey and some are no better then a decent air cooler (TT for example) as for leaks, so long as you use quality components, (danger den, swiftech etc) you shouldnt have an issue, i did my first ever cooling loop not to long ago with zero issues and turned out alot better then what i expected. I see. OK. Thought so. What's "TT"? and one more question, if I may... IF the water system uses a radiator to exhange the heat that basicly means what - will that mean that air cooling might be just as good? or does what cooling provide lower temps/more/better cooling? I guess what I'm asking is "is water cooling worth the extra dough? does it cool more?" it better, for that money. or can I buy a good CPU cooler/heatsink and be alright? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikesnow Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Yes the heat is removed from the water and back into the air via the radiator. Water IS better at cooling then air, yes you will see a difference going from air to water even with the crappiest of kits. TT stands for Thermaltake, their water kits are kinda cheap and shotty, however I have seen some that have been running 24/7/365 for 3 years now with no problems and the guy never even changes the fluid, I personally don't understand it myself. I bought one it lasted 2 months. For the price I would go with the Corsair one as a starter if you want to get into it a bit with the lowest investment, it retails for roughly 30bucks more then an avarage air cooler, and is maintanace free, and self contained, and will allow you to OC father while maintaining lower temps. Thats where I would start honestly, and if you need more cooling power down the road you can then invest more in a better solution, and at least have a better understanding with a little experience under your belt on watercooling at that point. Introduction to water cooling guide is a nice read as well. Edited July 21, 2009 by Bigfwd69 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now