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  1. Awesome dude. How does that OC frame and Naked 9900k do on temps?
  2. If you guys and gals had seen that I recently got an upgrade In my PC life. You would know that I am toying with my 011 Dynamic. After using this case for a while the question came to me. Is there a better way to configure the cooling for my setup? Searching the web I had mixed data from various youtubers and review write ups. This painfully concluded that I was not sure how I wanted to Configure the system. And I wasn't going to take on every suggestions as gold. So that meant one thing, time to test this myself. For all intense purposes the case layout looks a bit like this. 3 groups of 3 located at the bottom, top and front side facing away from the glass. Here are two reference photos. please ignore the pair of 960's in the setup photo. Those have been out for a while. Testing setup: Case: Lian Li pc-011 Dynamic Case cooling: X9 Scyth slipstream PWM fans 0-1600 RPM w/pwm (rated @ 74cfm) Motherboard and its minons : Intel 3930K processor on a Intel DX79si Motherboard supporting 16 gig Mushkin DDR3 2133 Note: The Ram is running at its rated speed in XMP and the Processor is OC'd to 4.20 Ghz from 3.20-3.50 turbo in single core turbo. Graphics: EVGA RTX 2080 Black edition (Stock cooling and stock clocks) PSU: EVGA 1KW PSU Processor cooling: I am using a liquid cooling loop that remained static in the Front side fan locations. Watercool Heatkiller VI basic waterblock, XSPC EX360 rad, XSPC Photon tube res, Swiftech MCP655 and 1/2-3/4 tubing. Testing solution: The test suit I used was 3dmarks Time Spy. For its function of testing both the CPU and GPU under the most extremes. and its free for the moment to me. Monitoring software used was EVGA Precision X1 for the GPU, Intel XTU for the board and its overclock, Core temp used for CPU temps and tracking. To keep things even more even Steven the GPU and the CPU were optimized into a Max performance profile so the Clock speeds are constant and Not skewing the results. After 2 consecutive runs with time Spy, one for warm up and second for data gather, The Max load temps will be recorded and then the system was allowed to sit in windows with only the monitoring software up for 10 minutes to establish a fair Idle reading. System setup: GPU was set to its automatic fan profile by Nvidia. This puts the fan efforts around 50% at 70c and 0 while the card is idling. To skew the results slightly, cause it cant be an amateur write up if I didn't, the fan profiles were set to a constant 50% with the intel built in ramp up starting from 50c and all on being at 60c. During testing it was ranged from 800RPM to 1200 RPM when the cpu ramped above 50c. In my defense, I did this because that is how I use it day to day. Lastly I did not take ambient in a manner that proper delta could be established. For this I do apologize. But according to a thermometer it was roughly 70F' next to the case when before I tested and after all testing took place. On to the Data: In the manner described above I went to it. Phillips in hand we shall see what happens. I was legit curious to see and apparently ready to delete 4 hours of life for the data gathering. See Crappy picture of fan locations for reference above. The first configuration I chose, because that is how it was to begin with, to have the top and side front fans populated as exhaust fans. 9 fans in total with the radiator sandwiched. CPU temp: Max 55c idle 35c Max Motherboard VRM temp: 54c GPU Temp: Idle: 47c Load: 73c GPU fan speed: Max 54 % Min 0% Second went Bottom intake with side and top exhaust. 9 fans in total with radiator only having 3 fans as outlet. CPU temp: Max 57c idle 40c Max Motherboard VRM temp: 54c GPU Temp: Idle 55c Load 73c GPU fan speed: load 50% idle 0% Next was The Bottom and side intake with top exhaust. This is where things get interesting. CPU temp: Max 55c Idle 39c Max Motherboard VRM: 56c GPU Temp: idle 45c load 75c GPU fan speed: load 57% idle 0% next was No bottom fans with side intake radiator sandwich and top exhaust. CPU temp: Max 53c idle 37c Max Motherboard VRM: 58c GPU temp: idle 48c load 77c GPU fan speed: load 60% idle 0% Lastly I did a brute force test with fans at 100% minus the gpu. Fan location was top exhaust with side intake and no bottom.... This was excessively loud but nowhere near as bad as bottom intake setups. CPU temps: Max 50c Idle 33c Max Motherboard VRM: 48c GPU Temp: Idle 35c load 65c GPU fan speed: load 48% idle 0% With that performed lets talk about this for a bit. Concluding: What is a constant here is the fact that you just cannot beat brute force when it comes to cooling performance. While impressive this case has not much a way of dampening noise or vibrations. Its so loud that it will rattle your teeth. For this reason I did not test the system much further with bottom intakes. Between the noise levels and results being either within margin of error or worse I abandoned using them in that location all together. A pc on your desk that is running north of 50 DBA is a distraction not worth getting used to. Now with the watercooling setup being where it is I cant help but wonder. Would the system perform better with the radiator placed elsewhere. With these results in hand once I have more time I have considered moving the radiator to the top and redoing testing just to get the most from my system. Movement of the heat coming from the GPU is going to make a clear difference, and in addition to that having fresh air only being ingested front the side fans is going to change that game. But how will that effect the CPU and VRM? Will a vertical gpu bracket improve this as well? Now that I have said that I will need to add the results as soon as I can allocate time to perform them. Likely next week. (January 26th tentative) With the testing performed it does prove one thing. Its an issue of give and take. With the fans as exhaust only and no bottom fans fitted we did see the best all around results. While with noise blown , haha, out of portion you can make the system cool better. What bothers me the most is that data clearly shows that bottom fans really do not serve a purpose other then blasting thy ears. You do see improvement with all fans pegged. But will suffer from hearing loss at the gain of only 5c on the CPU and 8c on the GPU. Other then that. Anyone that has taken the time to read this I greatly appreciate. Finally to answer my initial question. Is there a better way to configure the cooling for my setup? As usual the answer is, That depends.
  3. I have not tried that configuration. As far as testing with side exhaust its only value I found was then doing a negative pressure setup. Say you want to use 2 thin radiators in series. Other then that side should be intake. The best cooling all around came from radiator in top and side intake. Which I was not able to properly test against the same setup as I changed radiators. Not sure what it would do with all intakes. Not sure if the system would have enough places for the air to exit to make that worth while. What kind of performance issue and temps are we talking about..
  4. Here is the CPU ark page from intel. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/186604/intel-core-i7-9700k-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html DDR4 2666 is it memory standard . With some tweaking I am sure it can reach 3000MHZ. My favorite brand tends to be Mushkin but pick your poison. Just remember the greater density memory it is then the rougher it will be to overclock. If it were me though it would be this kit. Not sure how many GB you need though for video editing. http://www.poweredbymushkin.com/Home/index.php/catalog/memory/redline/item/1274-mra4u300jjjm8gx2
  5. I can see that. It seems the card is operating as its designed. Not really fault of kingpin or Tin, Just wish that it would have been marketed better. Doesn't mention anything about that at all, but who would all things considered....
  6. Boinker

    8600 Gt Overclocking

    shame on me for not looking.... STUPID MOD.
  7. Boinker

    8600 Gt Overclocking

    Thats reaching back to the past right there. Nice results, not much to miss with GPU overclocking. As long as it does not overtemp, artifact or degrade performance your golden. Side Note: I began with a 7950 ages ago. I think I have owned over 10 gpu's sense then. :wow:
  8. Long enough for me to hate it and then fix it. ;-D
  9. Boinker

    Overclocking 2080 ti?

    MrGuru , I believe the version you have should be an A chip. I am pretty sure if you can go above a 112% power limit then you do have an A chip. I think the version comes down to The gaming, XE, XE ultra and FTW branding divides which chips are the higher binned ones. The bios version should confirm that BUT I do not have the hyperlink to the thread on EVGA's site for that. As far as needing to do a bios update, I must ask does it really. I am in a bit of the same predicament. I own a 2080 black edition, I want to keep my card for the next 3-5 years. So I put the EVGA hydro copper water cooler on it and left the bios alone. My thoughts, Boinker
  10. One last think to do with it. Couldn't stand the kind teal turquoise fan beauty rings..... Buyers remorse.... Fork it, I have a paint can. I am pretty sure its better. What do y'all think.
  11. Gonna give a slight download of recent happenings. After saying screw it and going with a single rx360 I decided to paint it to match the case a bit better. Seeing as this rx360 is older then the system itself it needed cosmetic help anyhow. After that fiasco, had to make 5 attempts to get it right, it was installed. Not too shabby I don't think.  Then an install Shortly after was the nerve racking part. Hydro copper install. I have to say, evga did a pretty dang good job. However, it is the most expensive one on the market..... But it has unicorn vomit, cough cough rgb. Bleeding it with external psu for a day.  And here is the system during testing.... But first a small blooper reel. When I installed the GPU block I installed the insulating pad under the black rather then under the backing plate.... Oh well. Draining the loop was rather entertaining. But finally with the finished product..... Finished for now anyhow. It will receive new fan inserts. Blue didn't match up correctly. GPU max temp after some Tim burn in is 60c rather then 90c under heaven benchmark. And the processor hasn't suffered due to the addition of the GPU in the loop. Xspc made a dang good radiator. Now it just looks better. Final thoughts. Maybe hard tube one day... Lol, but not today.
  12. Boinker


    Welcome to OCC See you in the forums.
  13. It took a few minutes but I found this database here. https://overclocking.guide/intel-skylake-non-k-overclocking-bios-list/ According to my reading; unless you have a Z170 chipset motherboard that is on that list of modified bios you cant move the base clock to overclock the processor. Anything on the Asrock side of the list is where I would land, but the four of those are reputable brands. Although for overclocking that chip in particular I would go for something in the lower range of price. Sorry but I cannot suggest a specific board for you. How I tend to select motherboards is head to newegg and start tagging the filters until I have narrowed my options to a few. After that I head over to the cpu support section of the manufactures website and double check my reasoning. I.E. Motherboards section > Brand (intel) > Chipset (Z170) > manufacture (asus or asrock) > form factor > feature etc etc etc. However, If you are willing go a different direction MAYBE, put in for a different processor your Motherboard supports. With the 3020 bios it seems you have support for the 7700k, 6700k or 6400k. Those chips have the unlocked multiplier and are ready for overclocking. Seeing that the Bios has its AI tweaker on it I can assume you can overclock any K series chip. There is my long winded post for the evening. Me personally I would sooner get an overclocking chip then risk the current setup. My thought, Boinker.
  14. We all are looking forward to ryzen 3. AMD has been swinging it pretty hard lately. I am just curious if Intel is gonna get the CPU shortage over with and start coming out with a newer arc here soon. And their GPU rumors.... I hope come true.
  15. Glad you got some good results. Anything is better then running at stuck at stock. I wonder, what kind of performance increase in benches are you looking at in percentage? Also if you are looking for better results going to a triple radiator setup or going full custom will provide some improvement with a bit less noise.
  16. Boinker

    New Forum ??

    Cool. I can dig it. Much better then the white washed fence the old mobile forums was. Thanks a bunch OCC
  17. Boinker

    Asus vega 56 bios flash

    Removed Duplicated topic. Crap happens. Too your question.... IDFK, BUT; I saw one person on reddit confirm that he could. Now do you want to risk a card that you just got is on you buddy.
  18. Thats one hell of a review you have there Guest_Jim_* . It is certainly appreciated. And that is a lot of performance data. Thank you.
  19. Boinker

    r9 380 trottling at 80C degrees

    Rodregoxm49. 15% is a heavy penalty. Check out what Gamers nexus did to fix this case with a similar issue. Get creative and make something work. A dremal is your friend. And so is this stuff. https://mnpctech.com/case-mods-gaming-pc-liquid-modding-custom-computer-mnpctech-overclock-cooling-fan-grills/modders-mesh-honeycomb.htmlsometimes expensive and always worth it. If you a creative with it you can make a front intake hole and use this or a similar modders mesh to create a large front square or round hole. Maybe paint and style it so it will be sleek and simple. Maybe move the fans to the inside of the case and cut a small rectangular. Or maybe widen the holes the are situated at the front right of the panel to allow more air in and drill the panels bottom out. I would not be able to stand that Lack of performance from the case. I would be doing something similar to the mod gamers nexus did and adding RGB fans to the front of the case to offset the mesh mod at the front end. I would however use a wider mesh to create even less restriction. I am not sure what language you speak But I hope you can use this info to your benefit. Me personally; I would not be able to stand that Lack of performance from the case. I would be doing something similar to this and adding RGB fans to the front of the case to offset the mesh mod at the front end. Just my 2 cents. Good luck Rodrego.
  20. Boinker

    r9 380 trottling at 80C degrees

    Hello again. Looking at the case you have. It seems to me that it could be subject to a few flaws in the airflow department. Nothing that you did, BUT, if there is a way to get more airflow through it then that would help considerably. Most cases that have a front facia like the one you have tend to restrict the air going in so much that it chokes out the components on the inside. 1: Modifying the case to improve the air intake would be the best and most time consuming at the same time. I did this to my chief tech dragon and it helped quite a bit (modified the air intake louvers) This is assuming this is the case you own. http://www.kernel.com.br/bluecase/home/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=92 2: Removing air filters from the front intake would help but the consequence is dust intake. This is actually the first thing I do with all my cases when I receive them. 3: fitting higher performance fans, This comes at the consequence of noise. You said 90mm fans are mounted. Is there a chance you can move to 120mm fans? BTW: this your case? Gabinete Gamer BG-015? If so it should accept them. 4: If it doesnt have a tempered glass panel you can put a blowhole or a side intake in it. I have done it with plexi and acrylic panels and also done so with steel sidepanel. Here is a short guide to that. https://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/blowhole/ 5: if you are feeling adventurous then a bottom intake could help if there are vents in the powersupply shroud. Just my two cents. Good luck and god speed. Hope those temps come down.
  21. Boinker

    r9 380 trottling at 80C degrees

    Hey there, Welcome to OCC. Well there are a few options. Firstly is the card starting off at a really high temp at idle or is the card climbing up to this? Does the case have sufficient airflow? Have you tried replacing thermal compound? Have you used a OC utility to input a more aggressive fan profile? Is the fan working at all? If you wouldn't mind presenting a bit more info it would be helpful. Things such as; what video card it is specifically and under what conditions this occurs. More info please. Ill keep an eye this topic and if I have any suggestions ill be in touch.
  22. Awesome. Thanks for keeping us in the Know Guest_jim
  23. Boinker

    Need some help with stock crashing

    I looked into the error Code. There is some information that would suggest a driver error is to blame. Start with the board and chipset driver. reseat your ram. The ram issue drive me up a wall and turned out it was a dirty ram install all along...... Imagine finding that after a week of hunting and it turns out your gummy mits were to blame. Give those two a try and report back please. Also when I was having my issue (not stable anywhere) Clock_watchdog_error was one of my BSODs