So you think you want to go Windows Vista huh? (part 2, Angry's rant)

[Angry_Games]

Vista yeah! In my eyes Vista is not any worse than XP was when it came out! I have been running Vista for a while now without any problems and just installed the SP1 as well. Yes, it is a bit slower that XP and a memory hog etc. but it is nothing you should spent sleepless nights over it. Games run on it just as they run on my XP install! Crysis on Vista looks much better!

 

I disagree. Crysis looks 100% the exact same to my eyes on my XP box as it does on the same box booting to Vista. Once you enable all the high settings in DX9, there's zero difference that I can tell between the two....except for a MAJOR difference: it runs so much better on XP because XP isn't asking for 2GB of memory just to run the OS in the background =/

 

I do agree that XP when it first came out had it's share of issues, but nothing like the fiasco that Vista is having. You can search back through the internet archives as well as your own memories to see that this is true...or is it only true because in 2002 the internet was a tiny spec compared to what it is today, and there wasn't a message board every 2 inches that you could complain to like there is today?

 

I don't know, but I do know that I adopted XP very early because of the overwhelming advantages it provided over Win98 (stability) and 2000 (multimedia/games). Vista however, offers nothing, and in fact goes backwards in evolution with instability and incompatibility. I also remember that within a couple months of XP release, there were few programs that didn't work with it, unlike Vista, more than a year after release, there are still major issues with software.

 

However, on the enterprise end, the XP and Vista are on equal footing. It took many years for businesses to start moving client machines over to XP because of the problems with networking/software that the companies required. Vista is the same, no business in it's right mind will switch to it (unless they have a deathwish) until another year or two down the road...but I still know of many businesses that use Windows2000 as the clients (not nearly as many of course as XP as XP IS the standard now).

 

Others who do work like me will be able to tell you the same thing...businesses are the last to switch because they have sooo much more at stake than you and me browsing for porno and blowing up terrorists in 3d games.

[TheReaper]

Have you guys seen this?

 

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2210367/...posts-vista-sp1

[BlueOval]

Games run on it just as they run on my XP install! Crysis on Vista looks much better!

I don't think games look any better in Vista than in XP. However my experience is limited due to the fact I have a 7900 card running on my Vista laptop and an 8800GTS card on my XP desktop. Not to mention the fact that I've yet to try a game coded for DX10. As far as games running the same in both OS'es that is true to an extent. Once you try to apply patches changing the original folder's contents, Vista will not allow you to unless you have created a seperate directory for your games other than Program Files. I created one called Games Files and installed all my games to that directory and had no problems; but prior to my finding out about Vista's hidden folders and the fact the the Program Files dir that you see is just a virtual copy of the actual files, I had all sorts of problems whenever a new game patch came out.

[BlueOval]

...there's no ripping needed...

Whew! As usual I've come away from a conversation with you more educated than before. Thanks.

[Bill_v]

Why was Win95 such an influence? Like you, I'm not sure why from a personal viewpoint (as I never used it all that much myself), but I can tell you why from an objective viewpoint that ties in with reality...

 

I remember one of my favourite things about Windows 95 was the built-in dial-up networking with TCP/IP, PPP, etc.. support, so you didn't have to mess around with Trumpet Winsock dialer or any crap like that to get anything useful done on the Internet.

 

Before Win95, I used WFW 3.11 at work, but at home used DOS for 80+% of the stuff I did (games, programming assignments, word processing, BBS's [lol]). I loaded win.com when I had something Windows-specific to do, and at the time that didn't include too much.

[Angry_Games]

I remember one of my favourite things about Windows 95 was the built-in dial-up networking with TCP/IP, PPP, etc.. support, so you didn't have to mess around with Trumpet Winsock dialer or any crap like that to get anything useful done on the Internet.

 

Before Win95, I used WFW 3.11 at work, but at home used DOS for 80+% of the stuff I did (games, programming assignments, word processing, BBS's [lol]). I loaded win.com when I had something Windows-specific to do, and at the time that didn't include too much.

 

yep, games were pure bliss in DOS as long as you could get all the memory crap right, having to do stupid batch files etc etc...that's one thing Win95 did with DirectX at least (though in hindsight, I hate MS as they of course got everyone to abandon a killer open source app in openGL for their closed, proprietary bull crap, and now even iD, a huge proponent of openGL is mostly hitting DirectX)