Capt Proton Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 I installed my brand new Newark 4000+ tonight, after I had flashed to the 6/23 Bios, which is the official bios to support this chip. On my first boot, I thought I was going to have Windows boot up problems, it took so long. Finally, it booted. I immediately opened CPU-Z to see what it told me. It told me that it was a Newark 4000+, running with a X4 multiplier, and .95 VCore. I went out and went into the bios. I set Cool "n" Quiet to disabled. On boot up, same problem. X4 multi, and .95 volts. This remained the same regardless of whether I had Always On or Minimal Power Management set in Power Management. I went to the bios and set X13 and 1.35 VCore. It booted fine, and CPU-Z reported what I expected, although it was reporting the VCore as 1.32. Any suggestions as to what is going on here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPDMF Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 Mobiles aren't officially supported and they will default to low voltage and low multi. It has to be manually set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
e268 Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 I installed my brand new Newark 4000+ tonight, after I had flashed to the 6/23 Bios, which is the official bios to support this chip. On my first boot, I thought I was going to have Windows boot up problems, it took so long. Finally, it booted. I immediately opened CPU-Z to see what it told me. It told me that it was a Newark 4000+, running with a X4 multiplier, and .95 VCore. I went out and went into the bios. I set Cool "n" Quiet to disabled. On boot up, same problem. X4 multi, and .95 volts. This remained the same regardless of whether I had Always On or Minimal Power Management set in Power Management. I went to the bios and set X13 and 1.35 VCore. It booted fine, and CPU-Z reported what I expected, although it was reporting the VCore as 1.32. Any suggestions as to what is going on here? My 4000+ is in the mail (slow USPS and Canada Post). But, I looked up the other users and they have these settings: Samuri: 250x12 @ 1.45v Odeboo: 250x12 @ 1.475v learnpermit: 242x3 @ 1.6v What speed are you running at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Proton Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 My 4000+ is in the mail (slow USPS and Canada Post). But, I looked up the other users and they have these settings: Samuri: 250x12 @ 1.45v Odeboo: 250x12 @ 1.475v learnpermit: 242x3 @ 1.6v What speed are you running at? Well, I didn't have time to do much other than run a test in OCCT, which it had no problem with. Running [email protected]. Booted up at 210X13 @1.35 and fooled around a bit, but no benchies or testing for overclock yet. Probably do some this weekend. I'm watching my temps closely, as the water block for my Exos 2 seems a bit loose. It has a separate fastener for unlidded CPUs, but it rocks a bit. It may have more to do with the small surface area it's sitting on compared to the lidded variety than being too loose. Temps seem good so far, 38C when running OCCT, and they should go down some as my Shin Etsu G751 settles in. First time I've used this TIM, used AS5 brfore. We'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
learners permit Posted March 4, 2006 Posted March 4, 2006 Quite normal for the board and proc. combo. Dont forget to set shutdown temp. to 60C. in PC health status. Might save the proc. in case of personal or other error. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
e268 Posted March 4, 2006 Posted March 4, 2006 Just got my 4000 mobile yesterday. Installed it. No problem running at [email protected] but not tested for stability. Trying to oc now. Got a question. What is the max voltage? Tried AMD web site, but I could not find it. Any one know? TIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Proton Posted March 4, 2006 Posted March 4, 2006 Had a lot of issues just trying to get to 215mhz. Memory dividers not working, wouldn't boot unless using a 10x multi, errors in Super Pi, failing OCCT in seconds. The BIOS reset itself on my last crash out, so I did a colpete clear CMOS. Battery out, jumpers set for a couple hours while I did something else. Now I'm sitting at 13X215 running OCCT and typing this. I should have cleared the CMOS properly after I flashed to the new BIOS. VCore 1.45, temp 39C. 9/10 divider allowing me to keep my tight RAM settings. I figure I'm almost ready to crank it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
e268 Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 I found that I need at 1.5V Vcore to get it stable at 250x12 (passed OCCT 30 min test, and Superpi 8M). Idle at 38c and 42c running OCCT on air cool. You can up your Vcore to see if you can do better. At this voltage, 3000MHz is pretty well the max for me. I do not want to go higher until I find out what the max Vcore is. I think one poster here use 1.6, but I think I'll wait a while at 1.5v. Edit: BTW, I found that I cannot use 3X Htt, I have to lower it to 2x for OCCT to run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Proton Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 Just got my 8 hours of Prime. Am now testing at 220, still 9/10 on the RAM. Wouldn't boot with 1.45 VCore. Raised it to 1.5. I plan to continue to use just the 13x multi for now. I don't want to go past 240 as I have a hard drive on SATA 1. If i can get over 3.1 GHz, that would be awesome. I don't mean I wouldn't try some bumps higher than that, just not aiming for a 24/7 operation above that. I'm not sure I understand the desire to go to 300 + on the HTT, unless it is just to see how fast it will go. Is there any benefits to speed of operation or memory performance using a high HTT and lowering the multi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
learners permit Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 One memory module with no divider seems to work best with these mobiles for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacisnot Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 how mcuh do 4000+ newarks cost? where can u get thme? i googled and it jsut came up with newark american somthing which is not it lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
e268 Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 MonarchComputer.com $198US They do ship international, but you need an American based credit card, like Amex. CaptPronto said you can pay by money order. In any case, it is S754 which you cannot use on your nF4 mobo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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