czGLoRy Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 (edited) Odd, i looked at FAQ and it doesnt say how to overclock actually. Can anyone tell me the basics? intel pentium 4 3.4 ghz radeon 9800 xt graphics 2x512 kingston ram pc3200 I think the graphics card is fine the way it is, but maybe Ocing the rest would help, i have NO IDEA how to do this. Edited January 6, 2005 by czGLoRy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmpFreak88 Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 Might want to check the helpful Overclocking FAQ. Lots of great stuff and tells you all the basics. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
czGLoRy Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 Might want to check the helpful Overclocking FAQ. Lots of great stuff and tells you all the basics. Good luck. 388784[/snapback] hm, i guess i could use the tool, but i dont know what settings to use for the MOBO, and i dont know how to open the bios for ram either, dont know what to set, but the FAQ is pretty useful. thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmpFreak88 Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 Can you help us out a little bit and post your complete system specs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
czGLoRy Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 (edited) Can you help us out a little bit and post your complete system specs? 388789[/snapback] processor: Intel Pentium IV 3.4 GHz 800 MHz FSB 1MB Cache 478-Pin Socket Support Hyper Threading motherboard: ECS 848P-A Pentium 4 Support Hyper Threading 5 PCI, 8x/4x AGP, 1 CNR 6 USB 2.0 Realtek LAN, Serial & LPT Port ram: Kingston 1GB DDR PC3200 400 MHz video card: ATI Radeon 9800 XT DVI-Out, TV-Out, CRT VIVO 256 MB DDR 3 fans, efficient case, 35* celcius cpu with avg workload on idle 26 * celcius hdd idle Windows XP PRO IOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.40GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 1024MB RAM Page File: 382MB used, 2079MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicod is this enough? Edited January 6, 2005 by czGLoRy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergrunt69 Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 you got the basics, but you'll prolly also want to post what type of mobo you have (make/model), as well as what type of cooling. In general, the main parts to OC'ing the cpu is to change voltages, freq, and the multiplier (I think it's locked on intel though - i'm an amd guy). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
czGLoRy Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 you got the basics, but you'll prolly also want to post what type of mobo you have (make/model), as well as what type of cooling. In general, the main parts to OC'ing the cpu is to change voltages, freq, and the multiplier (I think it's locked on intel though - i'm an amd guy). 388797[/snapback] im guessing you said this while i was typing the specs >< i dont know anything about amd, they seem to be more expensive for a slower processor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampire Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 AMD's Athlon 64 CPU's may seem slower in cycles per second wise, but in fact the architecture makes up for them and makes then faster for gaming and other apps, hence the pricetage. Back to your question though, you obviously overclock through the BIOS. In there you can change a range of different things, the main ones you will need to look at are Front Side Bus (FSB) and the CPU Core Voltage (vcore). You want to be cautious when upping the vcore, you can damage your cpu if you go too high, but if you're careful and dont go to high you'll be right. Ok, the way your CPU speed is calculated is FSB x multiplier, which in your case should be 17, you cant change this since you have P4 and the multiplier is locked. Thats ok though, you do your overclocking by changing the FSB. Slowly increase the FSB (probably 5mhz at a time, ie 85mhz overall [17 x 5]). Once you change it, go into windows and run a program that loads your CPU to 100% such as prime95. Leave it for a while, if it does not crash then your system should be stable. Keep an eye on your CPU temps during this time, if they get too high I wouldnt suggest overclocking any higher. If however it freezes, then your system is unstable and you need to raise the vcore (raising vcore = heat). One important thing is to keep the AGP:PCI frequencies as close to 66mhz:33mhz as possible, you can find this in your BIOS. Any further questions just ask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
czGLoRy Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 AMD's Athlon 64 CPU's may seem slower in cycles per second wise, but in fact the architecture makes up for them and makes then faster for gaming and other apps, hence the pricetage. Back to your question though, you obviously overclock through the BIOS. In there you can change a range of different things, the main ones you will need to look at are Front Side Bus (FSB) and the CPU Core Voltage (vcore). You want to be cautious when upping the vcore, you can damage your cpu if you go too high, but if you're careful and dont go to high you'll be right. Ok, the way your CPU speed is calculated is FSB x multiplier, which in your case should be 17, you cant change this since you have P4 and the multiplier is locked. Thats ok though, you do your overclocking by changing the FSB. Slowly increase the FSB (probably 5mhz at a time, ie 85mhz overall [17 x 5]). Once you change it, go into windows and run a program that loads your CPU to 100% such as prime95. Leave it for a while, if it does not crash then your system should be stable. Keep an eye on your CPU temps during this time, if they get too high I wouldnt suggest overclocking any higher. If however it freezes, then your system is unstable and you need to raise the vcore (raising vcore = heat). One important thing is to keep the AGP:PCI frequencies as close to 66mhz:33mhz as possible, you can find this in your BIOS. Any further questions just ask. 388806[/snapback] would it be more effective to overclock ram or processor for max performance? how do i open the bios? (sorry... i probably have worked in it before just dont nokw its called a "bios" my best guess would be the f8 function while rebooting to modify stuff) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzidom Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 Thats right, F8 (or f2 or ESC, depends on mobo), not sure if your ECS board will allow you to manually step up your fsb (most do) thats probably the easiest way for a nooby to get a bit extra, like the man says above do it in baby steps, on your stock cooling I doubt much more than 10% (eventually) will be practical, you may have to raise your vcore 0.25v or so to get much further which may get things a bit too warm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
czGLoRy Posted January 7, 2005 Posted January 7, 2005 Thats right, F8 (or f2 or ESC, depends on mobo), not sure if your ECS board will allow you to manually step up your fsb (most do) thats probably the easiest way for a nooby to get a bit extra, like the man says above do it in baby steps, on your stock cooling I doubt much more than 10% (eventually) will be practical, you may have to raise your vcore 0.25v or so to get much further which may get things a bit too warm... 389288[/snapback] ok well, i had a 3.4 ghz and its not 3.6 and its not heating up at all... actually... its 3 degrees lower somehow confusing me but ne ways lol i did something with ram (i saw no 80hz thing to raise to 85) that was "normal, double turbo ultra" selections, io picked turbo. I didnt know ram had preset abilities to overclock! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeysz4 Posted December 20, 2005 Posted December 20, 2005 hey i have the same motherboard, but a different processor, i have the ECS 848P-A motherboard (which i think is the same) but my processor is the 3.2GHz. I found my BIOS but I can't find the FSB options, maybe my motherboard doesnt support the manual change, unless you can find it and i cant, im kind of a noob at OCing so if you could help that would be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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