New Build (looking for advice)

[joel.monteiro]

So basically Dual channel Ram do support triple channel when 3 sticks are used?

but how can rams that support dual channel support triple channel this does not make sense,its like ur telling when u have a single channel ram on a mobo that support dual channel and u add another stick that support single channel it becomes dual channel ,i dont think this is true. dual channel dont become triple,i may be wrong since i dont use x58 or p55 or ddr3

[El_Capitan]

 

8GB's... I either have a 2x4GB and I'm lying, or I have 4x2GB and the screenshot's lying.

[Drdeath]

1st of all The Apogee XT is a better block. 2 of the top 3 are Apogee XT and Heatkiller 3.0.

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9767/ex-...&OVNDID=ND1

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/heatkiller1366.html

 

 

 

I would not worry about cooling the northbridge. It is more for show unless you plan on Extreme overclocking. I easily hit 4.2 and got 4.47GHz stable with no NB cooling. Just get a 90mm fam and mod it blowing on NB heatsink. IMO the UD7 is a waste of $. The UD3R overclocks as good as any board out there and I would recommend the 930 as I have it and will attest it rocks. The UD3R has 2 x 16x PCI slots so your good to go if you elect 2 x 5850's.

 

 

As far as GPU, get the Powercolor 5870 eyefinity. It is $499 and 2 x 5850 will not be much better. They Eyefinity is 2G memory and has firewire ports with HDMI adapters and I feel it is a way better card. The Eyefinity supports up to 5 monitors and it makes the most sense with the money you are spending. You can run 3 monitors at hi res with this card. It is nice.

 

As far as memory, just like mentioned above get 2G x 4 sticks and run dual channel. It will be very good and if you want to add another 2 sticks in the future, you may. Just get the same brand and model. As long as the sticks are matched n the channel you are good to go.

Edited April 29, 2010 by Drdeath

[cirro]

I'm sure if he isn't worried about extreme OC'ing any swiftech block would be fine..

i wouldn't just call out the n/b cooling, as every board performs different

 

if you want compatibility, just get a 920, i haven't seen the average 930 OC really much higer than the 920, especially once again if your not going to take it to crazy levels

[El_Capitan]

There's folks selling the i7 920 d0 for $205 (me and someone else). I'll be selling mine at $170 once the i7 970's become available. The only advantage to i7 930's is an extra multiplier, and lower voltage overclocks. For instance, if I had an i7 930, I'd probably reach 4.1 GHz w/HT at 1.28Vcore rather than 1.35V.

[Drdeath]

There's folks selling the i7 920 d0 for $205 (me and someone else). I'll be selling mine at $170 once the i7 970's become available. The only advantage to i7 930's is an extra multiplier, and lower voltage overclocks. For instance, if I had an i7 930, I'd probably reach 4.1 GHz w/HT at 1.28Vcore rather than 1.35V.

 

 

Microcenter has 930 which all are D0 steppings for $199(New not used). I am at 4.3Ghz with 1.375v. with my 930. 4.47Ghz required 1.41V stable(HT enabled on both).

Edited April 29, 2010 by Drdeath

[Drdeath]

I'm sure if he isn't worried about extreme OC'ing any swiftech block would be fine..

i wouldn't just call out the n/b cooling, as every board performs different

if you want compatibility, just get a 920, i haven't seen the average 930 OC really much higer than the 920, especially once again if your not going to take it to crazy levels

 

 

Extreme or not Apogee GT is a better block for $20 difference.

[El_Capitan]

Microcenter has 930 which all are D0 steppings for $199(New not used). I am at 4.3Ghz with 1.375v. with my 930. 4.47Ghz required 1.41V stable(HT enabled on both).

Not everyone has access to MicroCenter (I live 5 miles from one). If someone does have access to MicroCenter, then obviously it's not a good deal. I'm still loathe to part with my i7 920 for $170. I can probably sell my MSI NF750-G55 + Phenom II x3 720 BE for $170 and buy myself another x58 motherboard and use that as my 2nd system... though I like having an AMD system around for some reason.

 

Those that only have Newegg as a place to buy their CPU, $205 is much better than $279, even if used. At $170, it'd be a steal. At least the buyer knows the batch number and overclocking/voltage potential if buying from someone here.

[DatsMagic]

1st of all The Apogee XT is a better block. 2 of the top 3 are Apogee XT and Heatkiller 3.0.

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9767/ex-...&OVNDID=ND1

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/heatkiller1366.html

 

 

 

I would not worry about cooling the northbridge. It is more for show unless you plan on Extreme overclocking. I easily hit 4.2 and got 4.47GHz stable with no NB cooling. Just get a 90mm fam and mod it blowing on NB heatsink. IMO the UD7 is a waste of $. The UD3R overclocks as good as any board out there and I would recommend the 930 as I have it and will attest it rocks. The UD3R has 2 x 16x PCI slots so your good to go if you elect 2 x 5850's.

 

 

As far as GPU, get the Powercolor 5870 eyefinity. It is $499 and 2 x 5850 will not be much better. They Eyefinity is 2G memory and has firewire ports with HDMI adapters and I feel it is a way better card. The Eyefinity supports up to 5 monitors and it makes the most sense with the money you are spending. You can run 3 monitors at hi res with this card. It is nice.

 

As far as memory, just like mentioned above get 2G x 4 sticks and run dual channel. It will be very good and if you want to add another 2 sticks in the future, you may. Just get the same brand and model. As long as the sticks are matched n the channel you are good to go.

 

 

 

thanks for the advice on the 5870 card. i'll check some reviews

[wevsspot]

The only advantage to i7 930's is an extra multiplier,

 

You can also get the x21 multiplier on a 920 via a BIOS switch - just enable intel turbo mode once and the x21 multiplier becomes available

 

The $199 i7 930 @ MC is an outstanding deal, in fact I cringed yesterday when I saw it....... But like you've said, not everyone lives within driving distance of a microcenter. Plus you still have to figure sales tax. I can't post an OBO in the FSorT thread, but my price is negotiable

 

Now - onto the subject of the 930 versus the 920. The 930 is a speed binned 920 - nothing more and nothing less. Same silicon, same chip, same manufacturing plant etc. Intel just sees all of these 920s clocking to 3.6 to 4.0Ghz without even breaking a sweat and they see a chance to capitalize on it by binning and charging an extra 20 or 25 bucks for a 930.

[El_Capitan]

You can also get the x21 multiplier on a 920 via a BIOS switch - just enable intel turbo mode once and the x21 multiplier becomes available

 

The $199 i7 930 @ MC is an outstanding deal, in fact I cringed yesterday when I saw it....... But like you've said, not everyone lives within driving distance of a microcenter. Plus you still have to figure sales tax. I can't post an OBO in the FSorT thread, but my price is negotiable

 

Now - onto the subject of the 930 versus the 920. The 930 is a speed binned 920 - nothing more and nothing less. Same silicon, same chip, same manufacturing plant etc. Intel just sees all of these 920s clocking to 3.6 to 4.0Ghz without even breaking a sweat and they see a chance to capitalize on it by binning and charging an extra 20 or 25 bucks for a 930.

I thought the i7 930 had a x22 multiplier for it?

[Drdeath]

Not everyone has access to MicroCenter (I live 5 miles from one). If someone does have access to MicroCenter, then obviously it's not a good deal. I'm still loathe to part with my i7 920 for $170. I can probably sell my MSI NF750-G55 + Phenom II x3 720 BE for $170 and buy myself another x58 motherboard and use that as my 2nd system... though I like having an AMD system around for some reason.

 

Those that only have Newegg as a place to buy their CPU, $205 is much better than $279, even if used. At $170, it'd be a steal. At least the buyer knows the batch number and overclocking/voltage potential if buying from someone here.

 

 

if I had no microcenter by me, I would have someone buy it and ship it for a measly $10-15. Case closed on no Microcenter :thumbs-up: