NikoDG Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) This is what I'm planning for my first loop: Reservoir -> Pump -> Chipset -> CPU -> Mosfet -> 140mm Radiator -> 360mm Radiator -> Reservoir Reservoir: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12480/ex-res-254/Koolance_RP-452X2_Dual_525_Reservoir_Rev_13_Serial_or_Parallel_for_1_or_2_Pumps_RP-450_Laing_D5_MCP655-B_MCP655.html Pump: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6190/ex-pmp-54/Swiftech_MCP655_12v_Water_Pump_w_Speed_Control_and_38_Conversion_Kit_317_GPH.html Chipset/Mosfet: http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=1235 CPU: http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=2030 140mm Radiator: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13010/ex-rad-242/Phobya_G-Changer_140mm_Radiator_-_Black_35194.html?tl=g30c95s929 360mm Radiator: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5795/ex-rad-121/Swiftech_MCR320_Quiet_Power_Triple_120mm_Radiator_-_Black_MCR320-QP-K.html 140mm Fan: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10215/fan-659/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentPro_PK-3_140mm_x_25mm_Ultra_Quiet_Fan_-_1700_RPM_-_27_dBA.html?tl=g36c15s775 OR http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10214/fan-658/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentPro_PK-2_140mm_x_25mm_Ultra_Quiet_Fan_-_1200_RPM_-_20_dBA.html?tl=g36c15s775 120mm Fan: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10323/fan-674/Scythe_Gentle_Typhoon_120mm_x_25mm_Fan_-_1850_RPM_D1225C12B5AP-15_Hot_Item_.html OR http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10210/fan-654/Scythe_Gentle_Typhoon_120mm_x_25mm_Fan_-_1450_RPM_D1225C12B4AP-14.html My questions are these: How much noise can I expect from this pump? I've heard good things about both the G-Ghanger and MCR320, has anyone here had good experiences with either of those radiators? Will I see a significant performance increase if I went with 1/2" ID tubing over 3/8" ID? Will I see a significant increase in performance using the higher RPM fans over the lower RPM versions? Will that performance increase be worth the increase in noise? Are Bitspower compression fittings good quality? Lastly, does this loop look like it will work well? I know that's a lot of questions, and I did do some researching of my own, it's just nice to have a second opinion from someone who has more experience with these things. Thanks in advance, Niko Edited January 16, 2012 by NikoDG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boinker Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I think you are doing is going in the right direction. That pump is very quiet and if you get the variant You have linked then you can turn it down to suit you and still get awesome performance out of it if its too loud. I would go with the 1450 RPM typhoons. You seem concerned about noise So i would use the lower RPM fans and that radiator will go nicely with them. I do not think you need an extra radiator for this build. As I stated with the pump for quiet operation I would keep just one radiator to keep flow restriction to a minimum. BUT if I was in your position I would use the extra radiator with the 1200RPM noise blocker. Im not sure how well it will work with all the tubing going from Processor to Mosfet to Chipset block. I would look into fittings and such and see how you can organize the loop and keep the cluster down. you can use that res BUT On the other hand rather then use the res you have posted would use this one. Danger din Also I would use 1/2 by 3/4 But in this case 1/2 by 5/8ths should be a little helpful keeping things under control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boinker Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I brain stormed about it. I think this would be the best way. Go to the Processor hole 1 First Using a swivel 45' connectors so you can route it away from the rest of the tubing to come. At hole 2 and three use 45' fittings to bridge the two with tubing between At hole 4 to 5 you can use straight barbs and make the tube go over everything Use another 45' swivel fitting or a Straight barb at hole 6 to complete everything. That is the way I would do it anyhow. Hope this helps. I would recommend bitspower fittings as my final thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoDG Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Thanks Boinker, the reason I chose the Koolance reservoir is cause after the GTX 7xx series comes out I'll be adding a second loop for my GPU(s). The Koolance reservoir can house two Swiftech MCP655's, while the Danger Den one only houses one I may take your advice and cut out that 140mm radiator though, I'm sure a MCR320 is more than enough cooling power for that loop. Thanks for the suggestion on how to tube the water blocks, you might be right that 5/8" OD would be better than 3/4" OD, it's very tight I was also thinking of using the Swiftech 350 rather than the 655, it has less power, but it runs almost silent and would dump minimal heat into the loop. I'm just worried it may not have enough power, what do you think? Edited January 16, 2012 by NikoDG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluePanda Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Personally I'd use 3/8" ID, 1/2" OD tubing to avoid the PAIN IN THE ARSE that is 1/2" tubing. I switched from 1/2" ID 3/4" OD tubing and it's freaking awesome for routing by comparison. I couldn't have put my rig together with 1/2" tubing because it's so hard to route. EDIT: This is Waco, btw, BluePanda was logged in on the home theater and I forgot to log in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoDG Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Lol, silly Waco Thanks for the suggestion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) It looks like they've modified the RP452-X2 extensively since they sold me mine...go figure...mine absolutely SUCKS without modification. It literally will never bleed properly without modification. That newer version looks to have improved on things though. As for running dual loops - I'd be more inclined to run your loop in serial. That way you get faster flow (almost always good) and you have the redundancy of dual pumps in case one of them dies. Edited January 16, 2012 by Waco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Do you have the version of the RP-452X2 with the chrome bleed pipe in the right side bay? I was telling Panda at CES that I can bleed my loop, but it is a 30min dance of turning the pump on, rotating the case, turning the pump off, rotating a different way, adding water, and repeating....literally a very annoying dance with a 100lbs case I do love the res though! Running dual loops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I've got the one without any of the improvements. No bleed pipe, no nothing. I had to remove those stupid plexi things that were supposed to help - all they did was make it even harder to bleed. I ended up routing it very weirdly with the water coming in on one side of the reservoir and going into the pump on the other side. Prior to me tearing it apart and rerouting the water I literally could not get it to bleed even after a few hours of topping it off, tilting it, etc. The first revision SUCKED in stock form. Now that I have it configured the way I have it now it literally takes about 5 minutes to fill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boinker Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Do you have the version of the RP-452X2 with the chrome bleed pipe in the right side bay? I was telling Panda at CES that I can bleed my loop, but it is a 30min dance of turning the pump on, rotating the case, turning the pump off, rotating a different way, adding water, and repeating....literally a very annoying dance with a 100lbs case I do love the res though! Running dual loops This being the reason when I build my loop its not going to have a Bay res with the pump integrated. Too many issues that come with it. Don't get the XSPC variant pump res especially. That bay res is just and has not bleed out in over a month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boinker Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 speaking of watercooling. what case is all this stuff going in?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoDG Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Cosmos II baby! No input on the Swiftech 350? Edited January 16, 2012 by NikoDG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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