DeSean Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 It's a different way of measuring HT speed between Opterons and Athlons. They are virtually identical processors. The only difference is the name that they report to Windows etc and the name etched onto the surface of the chip. I think people were speculating on whether the Optys had slightly better silicon so they could be run constantly in high stress server environments, but I don't know if we ever reached a conclusion. I think the 2000mhx HT is probably just a different way of marketing Atlhons. The Opteron is slightly better (it has a cooler name too!). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k€lticknight Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 having a x2 4400 wonder is it worth my while changing to opty 165-170 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Esau Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 In short the Operton is a superior CPU next to the X2 series Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k€lticknight Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 cheers saw few around at good prices Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red930 Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 having a x2 4400wonder is it worth my while changing to opty 165-170 I would say that it's not marketing, it's just typos on part of Newegg (and whoever else screws up). Opterons were made for the server environment, which means running much longer than a normal PC user would normally run his PC. It is possible that they used better silicon for the Opteron series. And no it's not worth changing your X2 4400 to an Opteron 165/170 unless you get a crappy overclock. It has the same cache size and everything, and I wouldn't waste more money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k€lticknight Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 I would say that it's not marketing, it's just typos on part of Newegg (and whoever else screws up). Opterons were made for the server environment, which means running much longer than a normal PC user would normally run his PC. It is possible that they used better silicon for the Opteron series. And no it's not worth changing your X2 4400 to an Opteron 165/170 unless you get a crappy overclock. It has the same cache size and everything, and I wouldn't waste more money. cheer guy was looking at fx60 dual core cpu,but still very high price for what it is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red930 Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 cheer guywas looking at fx60 dual core cpu,but still very high price for what it is Not worth it, when an Opteron CPU can overclock just as well as it can for hundreds of dollars less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k€lticknight Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 just keep what i have for now,might change the psu for a ocz 700 gamesteam psu or ocz 850 game steam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red930 Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 just keep what i have for now,might change the psu for a ocz 700 gamesteam psu or ocz 850 game steam I see no need for that, seeing as you have a 680W PSU. How many amps does it have on the 12v rails though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicDom1 Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 In short the Operton is a superior CPU next to the X2 series I do not know if I agree with your statement. If you look at the specifications I think you will be hard pressed to find differences. While most of what you read that people write on the net is based on speculation or opinion, the white papers from the manufacturer will give you a clearer picture. While its simply speculation here, it has been suggested that the Opty chips may have a stronger memory controller. This may be or may not be true. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red930 Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 I do not know if I agree with your statement. If you look at the specifications I think you will be hard pressed to find differences. While most of what you read that people write on the net is based on speculation or opinion, the white papers from the manufacturer will give you a clearer picture. While its simply speculation here, it has been suggested that the Opty chips may have a stronger memory controller. This may be or may not be true. Jason Indeed.. I wouldn't think there are any sources that can outright say that the Opteron is a better CPU than the X2. If you buy a 175 clocked at 2.2GHz and an X2 4400+ clocked at 2.2GHz, there's no difference.. just a different name slapped on each chip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisonsnak Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 I do not know if I agree with your statement. If you look at the specifications I think you will be hard pressed to find differences. While most of what you read that people write on the net is based on speculation or opinion, the white papers from the manufacturer will give you a clearer picture. While its simply speculation here, it has been suggested that the Opty chips may have a stronger memory controller. This may be or may not be true. Jason Well of course if you just look at the specs AMD puts out there's no difference between a dual 2.2GHz/1MB 939 opteron and a dual 2.2GHz 939 Athlon64, it's just well known by overclockers that the opteron, being a server chip, overclocks better. A chip's ability to overclock has little to do with its spec sheet from AMD. In fact overclocks can vary widely between different steppings for which AMD publishes identical specifications. The only exception I know of where the specs directly affect the overclock is if the chip is designed to operate at a lower voltage than normal (AthlonXP-M, Athlon64 X2 EE), or of course if it's a server chip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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