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k, so im making this new site.

 

the idea is this:

in the site i want to have a collumn on the left side of the page. in this collumn will be the site options (home, contact, media, ect) . its a little flash thing i whipped up that is 155x 410. and the other side of the page will be for info and what not.

 

basicaly i want to use frames, but i know frames get messed up when viewed at different resolutions, so i just wanna stay away from that.

 

so what should i use?

 

i want the collumn to stay stationary, and i dont want it to refresh. i only want the right (info) side to refresh. (just like frames).

 

also, i need this flash image to align as close the left side of the page as possible. i tried using tables and i get a gap between the picture and the left side of the page.

 

im sorry this is hard to explain so if u have any questions or need more info please ask and i will do me best to answer.

 

once again the main question:

 

what should i use to make this stationary, non-refreshing collumn? is there anything else i can use besides frames?

 

thanks in advance

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I would say tables, I know that tables can be a really big pain sometimes. But that is all that I can think of. I've seen websites where a guy did sort of a frames page, but all in Flash. Other than that have you tried using tables a second time. When I built my webiste I had to try 3 times before I could get the tables right.

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I'd definatly use tables unless you are going for that 80ish-era unskilled-newbish webpage look that frames tend to bring.

 

You can also use includes to make the menu in a single html (or php) page, and have it used repeatidly amung other pages. It's what I did with my site, and if I'm not mistaken OCC has done it as well.

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PHP is nice to use, the only issue is the fact that it is a server side controlled language meaning you need to run a server such as Apache and load the PHP modules into it. If you don't know how to make a webserver or don't have the tools to do it, you generally have to go with a host that runs PHP and have to pay for them to host your page. It is just a shame that you are limited to what you can do with HTML.

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He needs a web server wether he uses PHP or not.

 

While I use Apachie more, PHP can be instaleld and configured to run on Microsoft's IIS/PWS... though why someone would do that is beyond me. It's about as dumb as running IE on Linux (or running IE at all).

 

Download - Install Doc for IIS/PWS - Apachie Install Doc

 

 

 

Also, in addition to what Some_Guy_ said, frames don't have to be messed up in different resolutions if done right, however people do tend to get "stuck" inside a frame. - This happens mainly when coming from a search directory, or when ctrl+clicking a link within the site. - The use of tables gives you more flexability and avoids those problems all together.

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k, so i started using frames again.... but again, i get the gap on the left side of the page, and torwards the top of the page....

how can i get rid of that gap so the flash is closer to the edge of the page?

 

heres the site: http://www33.brinkster.com/repeatrepeat/frameset.htm

 

tell me something doesnt work...

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He needs a web server wether he uses PHP or not.

 

While I use Apachie more, PHP can be instaleld and configured to run on Microsoft's IIS/PWS... though why someone would do that is beyond me. It's about as dumb as running IE on Linux (or running IE at all).

 

Download - Install Doc for IIS/PWS - Apachie Install Doc

 

 

 

Also, in addition to what Some_Guy_ said, frames don't have to be messed up in different resolutions if done right, however people do tend to get "stuck" inside a frame. - This happens mainly when coming from a search directory, or when ctrl+clicking a link within the site. - The use of tables gives you more flexability and avoids those problems all together.

I didn't mention IIS because of the nice little exploits that come with it :P

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