Blave Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 So I was thinking... The dual core Opterons are esentiallly Toledo's right? In every way they are probably the same as 1MB L1 cache Athlon 64 X2's right? So if I could get a Dual Core Opteron 165 for $299 is that better than the a simialrly priced X2 3800? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Games Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 probably, except Opteron cpu's are not officially supported...doesn't mean users here won't help you, but you can't get any 'official' support from DFI on opterons if you have problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid1 Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 So I was thinking... The dual core Opterons are esentiallly Toledo's right? In every way they are probably the same as 1MB L1 cache Athlon 64 X2's right? So if I could get a Dual Core Opteron 165 for $299 is that better than the a simialrly priced X2 3800? If you don't overclock the 3800+ will be faster, the faster clockspeed counts much more than the bigger cache. The 165 will probably overclock higher. But there is insufficient data about the 165 yet. And you can bend the odds by choosing a Toledo-core 3800+ of which most seem to clock well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealBeingX Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 As soon as i saw the Opteron 165 was dual core, and had 1mb per core of L2 cache(not to mention about 20-30 dollars less than the 3800X2)...I bought it instead of the 3800 x2. I mean in theory itll clock higher....and it has double the cache. So far ive got my 165 up to 2.4ghz (1.44v)...just chillin at this point so far..not pushing it yet. The temps on this thing are exactly the same as my 3000+ i was using prior to this cpu...32-34C idle, 38-39C load. It should be noted im using a Thermalright XP 120, with a 120mm 93cfm max adjustable fan, and my case is all aluminum...with a 120mm fan in the rear, also 93 cfm max. I hardly ever run the fans at max speeds though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intogamer Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 yeah I kinda feel better with a cpu that is made for personal use But then I don't want to be out of the group lol XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealBeingX Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 Feel better with a cpu made for personal use? I mean this opteron is basically the same thing..just supposedly made from better silicon...and a better memory controller...I mean the only diffs I see are positives...and it overclocks well. I mean if I wanted an X2 with 1mb cache per core, id have to pay $500 instead of the $300 I paid. cpuZ + task manager: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~gdgottli/cpu.gif so Blave, if I were you, I would definitely get the opteron. It wouldnt be too much of a sin to get the 3800 x2, bc its price is dropping down towards the opteron 165 price, and the opteron 165 is a tad hard to find right now. monarchcomputer.com should have it around Nov 28. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intogamer Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 ooo man dual monitoring i must have... I"ll wait it out... prices aren't fixed until shipment goes to warehouse like gas at the station... everday I pass by it and I see the tanker and the price is lower =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealBeingX Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 lol lanpartay in ur sig.......XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinjimy Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 Angry HAS to tell you that they aren't supported the dual core opterons so far are doing well as usual it is stepping related the 170/175's that are CCBWE 0530TPMW stepping see 2.8-2.9 gHz on air don't know about the 165's yet............. mine is a retail from Monarch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealBeingX Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 o0o0o00o0 nice....you have some guts takin that IHS off....I tried to take off the IHS of my 3200+ venice a while ago, and killed it...i hit one of the transistors... im not touching the IHS on my 165 unless i become really rich and can afford to lol. but yea, that looks really nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red930 Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 Are you gonna run that thing naked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blave Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 so Blave, if I were you, I would definitely get the opteron. It wouldnt be too much of a sin to get the 3800 x2, bc its price is dropping down towards the opteron 165 price, and the opteron 165 is a tad hard to find right now. monarchcomputer.com should have it around Nov 28. Yeah...The Opteron sounds like a really good alternative...I wonder if AMD would be shooting themselves in the foot if all their customers knew how to overclock and would just basically buy the x2 3800 and overclock it to x2 4600 speeds w/ stock heat sink...They would be losing tons of money! I guess they just make too damn good of a processor... The original reason I was asking is that I saw this article on AMDZone http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modl...rtid=200&page=1 I can't wait to see how the performance stacks up...Perhaps a x2 4400 and a 165 Opteron overclocked to 2200Mhz...Would be very interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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