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[OceanSeasforMe]

Ok, I have one stick in the orange slot and the sound card is removed.

 

Booting is still sporadic but I can get to where it finds my healthy raid array and starts an windows install if I have the win disk in. *(but I might have to grab the A drive from this machine as none of the 5 extras I have will work for installing raid drivers.) *(not reading an A drive period)

 

I used my bootable ISO tools and ran Memtest x86 (one of the two versions I have) and OH SNAP it got to 37% and then just threw errors. After 36K erorrs I shut it down.

 

I used part of the post http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...67&postcount=15 and It looks like I need to manually set the memory up. Its not my strong suit, but I can learn and I guess that part is next.

 

So is there any data on the memory that will assist me ? Its listed as

valueselect vs32m8-5 ps1300515b on the physical chipsets on the mem sticks.

 

I figured I screwed up getting the cheap memory and did not want to cook it on the spot so I only did steps for basic and haven't changed any memory settings yet.

 

I can rouge memory from this machine if I have to, but its a last resort.

 

Recomendations ? suggestions ? detail I missed ?

 

Thanks in advance.

[Guest JaY]

Terrible choice of ram. Corsair anything is typically a bad choice for these boards, but then add in that it's value ram... I really doubt you'll be able to get it working and stable.

 

I'd start looking at all the what to buy ram threads and get some new memory, rma for refund what you have now if possible.

[OceanSeasforMe]

Terrible choice of ram. Corsair anything is typically a bad choice for these boards, but then add in that it's value ram... I really doubt you'll be able to get it working and stable.

 

I'd start looking at all the what to buy ram threads and get some new memory, rma for refund what you have now if possible.

 

Yeah, I found a partial build of a DFI machine on another msg board and bought similar stuff *(in many cases) without ever knowing DFI street existed. Hindsight is 20/20 and I know now I should have gotten better memory.

 

I guess I will yank the gig of kingston in this machine and try it. I remember paying decent cash for it, its kingston or Samsung or at least name brand stuff at pc 2700.

 

From reading, I need to flash to the latest bios. As long as I am in this case I might as well steal this A drive and swap another into it. On my HP test machine in the kitchen. the floppy cable mount is "damaged" and nonfuncitonal so I cant test them on it. I know this one works so I guess its next.

[Guest JaY]

good luck, hopefully you can get that kingston ram working..so you at least have something until you can get new ram.

[mucker]

Try something before scrapping the Corsair:

 

1. Flash the bios to 3/10

2. Set the Vdimm to 2.7v

3. Set up the memory manually. You need to only set what I list below, leave everything else in auto:

 

FSB - 200

Memory ratio 1:1 - 200

Tcl -2.5

Trcd -3

Trp -3

Tras -7 or 8

Command rate - 1T

 

Is your Corsair CAS 2.5 or 3? Use CPU-z to identify the SPD of your memory and use those settings when entering manually.

 

I have used Corsair VS successfully and know that it won't work with 2.6v. You have to up the voltage to 2.7v. And don't worry, you won't fry anything

 

m

[OceanSeasforMe]

Thanks for the prog suggestion, I know what mem I have in this machine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InKawgNeato/Amem.jpg

 

I will put the VR mem in this machine and see if it will boot and get my settings is how I read that reply. *(*cause I dont have a windoze install on the other one yet.) HTat or I missed the bootable ISO/usb version so far.)

 

Sounds like I will have some bios and memory research and whatnot to do when I get back , got errands to run so it will be a few hours before I start on it again.

 

Yea, I just didnt want to melt it before I figured out if it would run this machine, but I will try the setup after I do a bios flash with the VR.

[OceanSeasforMe]

My main Pc as detailed in the below screencaptures just ate the mem the dfi board did not like with stock settings.

 

(In the DFI board I used no memory v changes or latency changes etc, but i have in this post and the main AG "how to" post some suggested settings to try still.)

 

I Will reinstall this memory and tweak it as per prior post if applicable settings still apply.(This is my main PC with the memory listed in my sig installed.)

 

 

I can Memtest it here on my machine and double check the memory on this PC next.

 

What settings do I need and are the other settings posted correct if I try to use this memory below in the DFI board ? )

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...ldpcNEWmemA.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...ldpcNEWmemB.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...ldpcNEWmemC.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...ldpcNEWmemD.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...ldpcNEWmemE.jpg

 

I have one kingston memory stick in the dfi board and about to go for a refire

with basic settings.

 

trying with "kingston Value ram"

kvr400x64c3a/512 2.6v

 

On chipsetof stick :

SAMSUNG 343

k4h560838E-tccc

 

I Saw a thread about compatible mem testing data for mediocre memory (value range) being availible soon. I am also watching the "what memory do you have in your nf4 board" thread for a consensus if I cant get one of these two pairs working. Arr, looks like bullet biting time and shelling out the coins for the fancy memory if all else fails. But I think I can wing it to get it going, just l0ng term stability is my goal and I will fork out if needed for the most stable combination.

 

I also snabbed a Floppy from off another pc I built that a friend has out of its case and on his workshop table. I know it works and if this dosent get it, I will scrap the factory yellow floppy cable for a regular ribbon cable. I never cared for the low profile cables anyway, to fragile.

 

I Still need to view a screen to get the flash bios sequence and the latest bios, but I think that is the least of my issues as that is following directions and simple stuff compared to the rest of it. Now I have to analyze what data I have and learn OC'ing enough to know what I am setting in the timers/power settings.

 

From "oldpcNEWmemE.jpg" I gather that those are the settings I should set in the bios when I try to boot them back into the dfi board. also the 2.5 3 3 8 settings.

 

The Screenshots I have of the Kingston before I yanked it is differnt in that it appears to support multiple bandwidths and the Ram I am trying to use is only shown at 200 mhz in cpu-z 1.28.6 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InKawgNeato/Amem.jpg

 

Ah well, thats where I am at and I need more tools ? I am useing http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ Ultimate boot disk for my utils, I can see I have been lax in seeking benchmarking software but it has memtest on it and I think its the right / same one.

 

I also have a link to the help board for corsairs memory forum and the gurus resideing there, worst case I will see if I can get some settings there.

 

Arr... Enough posthulation, time to trim the mizzenmast and batten the hatches and ride the seas of data.

[OceanSeasforMe]

Wow, I have learned a lot and I still have a whole lot to learn. Three days ago memory latency timing was foreign to me and now its almost makeing perfect sense. One issue at a time and I have passed the memory hurdle for the time being as far as I can tell for now......

 

So far so good, the board is booting and very stable with basic settings since I flashed the bios and installed BOTH sticks of memory...... *(I know I know)

 

And now I see what fun this stuff is now that I have a copy of windoze installing.

*(omg its alive, thats always a great feeling.)

 

I ran memtest for 3 1/2 hours with no errors and both sticks at once. (I know I know) It made ten passes with no errors and so windows is installing now.

 

So far the install and boot sequence is rock solid AND I do have the side open and a huge fan temporarily super cooling the memory.

 

I have lots of learning to do an not out of the woods on this install yet.

*(then again, I know how that goes as I have repaired hunderds of junk machines.)

 

Arrr, my windoze did a full install *(But I didn't see both drives in the unpartitiond drives list) Ahh well, I was trying for raid 1 (even though I understand its not a guarentee to be hot swappable, I want to try.) I found a raid o thread and AG's page link to his bios screens.

 

I got this far so I guess I will hunt to make sure I get 16X or whatever that was I was supposed to do to aviod data tansfer bottlenecks. *(in control panel its shown as one drive but in properties as a healthy NVida mirror 69.24g "disk driveS."

 

I am getting together a list of testing tools I need now to replace my old 386/486 testing tools. so far cpu-z and OCCT, but I have a thread or two marked with progs I need to find.

 

And yea, I saw the thread I need somewhere on the sequence to feed it drivers also. Guess, I should pay close attention to that one. Most times I just go with what feels right, but in light of my current build progress, I should go by the book on this one.

 

No biggie, the odds of getting it perfect on the first install are slim, and I figured on a new install again to make sure i know the sequence by heart.

 

Ah well, its alive anyway. and yes I should prolly walk the plank for thinking about useing value ram in this machine. Long term, I will get better ram if needed I am looking at several threads to see the consensus.

 

Guess I can post in the nf4 thread with stable mem thread now ( I kid I kid)

Actually, no, I will wait till I find better benchmarking software and know a bit more about what I am doing. Shouldn't take long if I can find the time.

[FutureDFI]

Terrible choice of ram. Corsair anything is typically a bad choice for these boards, but then add in that it's value ram... I really doubt you'll be able to get it working and stable.

 

I'd start looking at all the what to buy ram threads and get some new memory, rma for refund what you have now if possible.

 

 

Are u sure? Corsair are terrible?

 

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10929

 

 

Congratulation OceanSeasforMe, u learning fast. :cool:

[OceanSeasforMe]

I had to drop my meager tools on a USB pen and play detective now that I have a system that boots and shuts down easily.

 

Everest has answerd all my questions and given me 12 thousand more. (memory mainly as the rest of it is familiar territory.) Guess I will fix my sig tomorrow.

 

I had to go from paint to adobe and I left the resolution to high as I was in a hurry so photobucket took it upon itself to resize these images.

 

So here the beastie is and WHAT A BOOT. It flashes from the first win screen to full boot in about 10(+/-) seconds.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...ato/CPUData.bmp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK.../MEMtimeing.bmp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...eato/MEMORy.bmp

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...o/firstlook.bmp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...eato/second.bmp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InKawgNeato/third.bmp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...eato/fourth.bmp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/InK...fthNOTEslot.bmp

 

 

At least now, I can answer many of my questions myself as I encounter them.

 

ok now this thread can die,I just had a proud moment to show off my creation.

 

Tomorrow its drivers and potential compatibility issues as the next hurdle.

 

Woo hooo.... errrr, Arr ~ !

[Vista]

Hey, congratulations! Yes, I had to magnify your photobucket images to read them, so it wouldn't hurt to repost when you get some sleep

[mucker]

Glad to hear you are up and running Ocean. Were you able to set the Vddr (Vdimm) to 2.7v? The Corsair should run well as long as you keep it near its' rated DDR 400 speed. You could probably easily increase your CPU frequency to 2.230 GHz by doing the following:

 

1. Set the HTT (fsb) to 223 (keep the 10x multiplier)

2. LDT/HTT multiplier to 4x

3. Set the startup voltage to 1.425

4. Set the CPU VID to 1.40 (this is the stock voltage for Winchester)

5. special VID to 104% (1.40x1.04=1.46v, very safe voltage)

6. In the Genie bios, set the memory to run at 180/200 (or 9/10)

this will make the ram stay at stock speed 223 x 9/10 = 200.7 = DDR 401 (close enough)

7. Keep everything else as is.

 

By doing this you should easily get a free 223 MHz gain in CPU speed, without doing any harm from voltage or temperature. You won't even see a difference most likely.

 

I am sure you'll have fun figuring all of it out. There are alot of knowledgeble people here, just have to do alot of reading....anyway, good job! and have fun...

 

m