InvaderTrax Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 (edited) The heart and soul of any CPU is located in a tiny rectangular area at its centre, called the core. It is the architecture of the core and its fabrication method that determine the capabilities of the CPU. Traditionally, CPU manufacturers always provide the cores that they manufacture with a codename. For example, the current generation of Pentium 4 CPUs is based on the Northwood core. In much the same way, AMD has also named the cores that its CPUs are based on. Palomino referred to cores that were based on the 0.18 micron fabrication process. Due to the relatively larger die size, clock speeds on the older Palomino core were restricted to 1.5 to 2 GHz. The Thoroughbred core (affectionately referred to as T-bred) was fabricated using the 0.13 micron process, thus allowing for higher clock speeds. Although there are several other differences between the Palomino and the T-bred, the fab process is by far the most significant. Finally, the Barton core is the newest entrant in AMD's stable (quite appropriate considering that the previous names are connected to horse racing). Again, the most significant difference between the T-bred and the Barton is the larger cache in the latter. Edited January 14, 2004 by InvaderTrax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 no offense, but you haven't read many posts here have you? most of us here can recite the whole line of cpu cores, bus speeds, cache sizes, die sizes, thermal tolerances, voltage ranges, and what weeks are best to buy for oc'n. also your info is off. palamino cores were not limitted from 1.8 to 2ghz. they were used on the athlon xp 1500+ to 2000+ (1.2ghz - 1.667ghz). Barton not only added the larger cache size, it also was the first and only chip to support 166 and 200mhz fsb (333 and 400 if you're one of those folks too dumb to actually read the fsb and listen to the AMD version of it). But at the same time you can't stop there. You should also add in the "clawhammer" and it's big brother the "sledgehammer" cores. Clawhammer is the single channel version of the athlon 64, while sledgehammer is the dual channel version (athlon 64 FX and opteron). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overclocker16 Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 And bigred pwnz again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderTrax Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Well, it would seem your information is a bit off too. The Thoroughbred's also support a 333MHz bus. Unless mine is just some kind of oddity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overclocker16 Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Well, it would seem your information is a bit off too. The Thoroughbred's also support a 333MHz bus. Unless mine is just some kind of oddity He never said anything about Thoroughbred's. Unless his post just shows up different for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderTrax Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Sure he did. "...Barton not only added the larger cache size, it also was the first and only chip to support 166 and 200mhz fsb... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overclocker16 Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Invader, as much as your trying to fight it. 99.999% of us already know all this stuff. No use posting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderTrax Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Yeah, but there's been some talk in different threads about which means what. I just thought it might help to have a reference thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overclocker16 Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Most threads your relating to are about cores that OC good. Mainly the stepping of them, not the core themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 excuse me for forgetting about the short-lived xp 2700+. 1 cpu out of all the t-breds. 1 oversite... yeah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderTrax Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 And apparently a few 2600+'s made it out as Thoroughbreds with the 333MHz bus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie b Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 geez.....everyone needs to lighten up. We all obviously already knew this information. He posted it again. Big deal, doesn't hurt you any. GEEZ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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