I can't get my gig! Pleeeeese help!

[danger55]

Firstly- sorry about the crap specs. I promise I'll update them asap. But here's my prob....

 

I had 2x256M PC3200 installed when I first got the cpu a while back- I think they are both generic and have never had a problem with them. I've since decided to bump up the ram and purchased a 512M PC3200 Kingston memory stick after being told that it's no problem to have the 3 sticks if they are all PC3200. So I installed the new 512 in the empty slot (there's 3 slots) but the thing froze during the xp loading screen ie. the blue loading bar just stops.

 

After this I tried taking one of the 256M stick out and it ran fine. It also correctly registered there was 768M ram installed. Now I've tried all combinations of memory in different slots and it always works fine with 2 sticks installed no matter which slots but as soon as I add the third no matter where, it freezes again.

 

Please oh please before I take to this machine with a sledgehammer!!!!!!!

[Action Trey&#33]

mmm not sure what the stetings are for the bios on that board, but only thing i can think is maybe has somehting to do with dual channel... are the 256's a dual channel set? maybe if you bios has option disable and see if it works. just trying to help, and hope it does -trey

ps...thats a lot of poewr for you rig man...y would you buy such a monster?

[danger55]

I'm not using the 256's as a dual set but I can't see why I couldn't. Either way, it's not set to dual channel. Any other suggestions?

 

As for the rig...I suppose compared to the crappy old Duron that was in it, it is a bit of power. I got a good deal and thought I should start some serious upgrades now. Still working on it.

[medianOCer]

If you would list all the sticks you're trying to run in your board, with the complete part/model

numbers, or even the part numbers of chips that are on the sticks, that would help others

figure out if they might run together properly.

[danger55]

ok so here is what I have...

the 2x256's are generic and I could only get a bunch of numbers off the chips. The first is....

352AP

HY5DU56822BT-D43

 

and the second is....

HTL XM1175

HT25D32825KK

0520

 

and the 512 is a Kingmax SuperRam series Dual Channel mate (but I'm not using it as a dual channel). All 3 are PC3200.

 

Another interesting thing I found was when I install the 3 sticks, I can boot up in safe mode and the memory is registered as 1G. Otherwise booting in normal mode with the 3 sticks freezes at xp loading screen as I mentioned before. So at the moment I've got the 512 and a 256 in it and it's working fine. Hope this helps.

[NEOAethyr]

One of those sticks is hynix d43, should be ok memory, though there does'nt seem to be many, if anyone around using hynix.

 

I don't know what sort of chipset that is...

The board.

 

Anyways on my board, when I tested out 3 sticks, 3x256, all single sided, 2 tcb3's and one tcc5...

I could not do cmd1, or CPC: ON is another wording of it.

It killed my bios just trying it @ 266(533) :.

 

If you got cas and cpc/cmd rate settings, try these:

CAS 2.5, or 3(2.5 if 3 is not possible).

CMD 2, or CPC: OFF/Disabled or whatever.

 

This may help ya out a bit.

Mixing sticks is not easy at all though.

 

 

Anyways how the slot config look on that board?

Is there 2 slots next to each othr, and another slot by it's self like?

If so, use the 512 in the slot that's by it's self, that's not grouped with the rest of the slots.

Then the 2 256 sticks in the 2 slots that are grouped next to each other.

 

This will be the best slot config for ya, probably, just an educated guess.

 

You may need slightly more chipset voltage and vmem when running more then one stick at a time.

Just don't go crazy with that though.

 

Memtest, s&m, and superpi, all your friends .

Prime95 as well, I normally use that to finish it off though since I like at least 8hrs of it.

 

 

Anyways are you mixxing dual sidded with single sided sticks?

For one, if the 512 is dual sided you my be allright, using the above like slot config that I talked about.

But.., if one of the 256m sticks is single sided and the other dual sided, you'll probably never get it working.

 

You "might" beable to get something like that working if you got drive strength and slew rate settings in the bios.

[danger55]

CAS is set at 2.5 and CMD2 is disabled already. As for the slots, they are all spaced evenly and they are all the same colour so as I said before, it doesn't matter what combination I install the sticks, with 3 it just won't work.

 

I am mixing 2 sided and single sided- the 256's are both single and the 512 is double sided so I wouldn't think this would be a problem.

[medianOCer]

Have you tried the 512MB Kingmax in slot/dimm 1 (closest to the CPU),

the HT25D32825KK in slot/dimm 2 (the one in the middle), and the

HY5DU56822BT-D43 in slot/dimm 3 (furthest from the CPU)? You could

try 2.6v to 2.7v on the RAM with the above configuration, and with a

1:1 RAM/FSB ratio.

 

Do you have the basic AD77, or the AD77 Infinity, or the AD77 Pro?

 

Your CPU, is that an actual 2200+ Barton (or Thorton) core? Or is it

a 3200+ Barton which is rated at 2.2GHz, or even something else?

Just want to make sure what we're looking at for the CPU and to

find out what the 'stock' FSB for it is and etc.

[danger55]

Thanks for all these quick responses!!!

The mobo is a basic/ general AD77

The cpu is a 2200+ Barton

..and as for the ram config, I think I've tried that combo but I'll have another look. What about the ram voltage? Is that adjusted on the mobo itself? It's not done through BIOS correct?

[king of nothing]

I'm not sure... but I'd guess it's an option in your BIOS.

[medianOCer]

I downloaded a .pdf manual for your board and took a look at it.

 

Do you have the J37 jumper set for a 166MHz/333DDR FSB

(pins 5 & 6 connected)? Or if you have a 133MHz/266DDR CPU,

then connecting pins 3 & 4 on the J37 jumper and to get your

CPU recognized properly.

 

There's another jumper block on the board, which is J38 it is

for the DRAM voltage setting. A 2.6v setting needs pins 1 & 2 to be

connected on the block. To get 2.7v connect pins 3 & 4, which you

could use if you're trying to run 400DDR. If you're running either

333DDR or 266DDR, then 2.6v is probably going to be enough for your

RAM sticks.

 

You could try putting the RAM sticks in your board, as mentioned in

my previous post, then set your Front Side Bus (FSB) for what your

CPU is rated at (either 266DDR, 333DDR, or 400DDR and depending

your CPU). Set the DRAM voltage to 2.6v. Before booting up your

computer, clear the CMOS/BIOS for at least a minute with the power

off and the cord pulled out of your power supply. Replace the CMOS/

BIOS jumper to it's normal position, plug in the power supply and wait

for a minute then turn on your computer. Go into the BIOS and load

Optimized Defaults, then save and exit. See if that gets the RAM

sticks to work together.

 

[The CMOS clear jumper block looks like it's designated as JP3. With

pins 1 & 2 being normal operation, and pins 2 & 3 will clear the CMOS

data.]

 

If you're still having troubles it could be that the RAM sticks are going

to have compatability issues, and could be different enough that they

might not all work together. There might be the possibility that we

could get them to work, but changing some of the BIOS options and

configurations may be needed, no guarantee on that but we could try

it and see if it's going to be possible, if you're still having problems.

 

Also, do you have any further information on the Kingmax RAM stick

you have? Part/model/chip numbers and so on?

 

2200+ Barton, eh. That's a desktop Barton, or a Mobile CPU? What's

the size of the L2 cache on that CPU, 256K or 512K? I'll see if I can

find some more info on that one.

 

Let us know how that works out.

[danger55]

Wow, thanks for all the info.

 

I'm not at my computer right now but I'm pretty sure the cpu is set at 133Mhz which I think is 266fsb- pins 3 and 4 on the J37 jumper. I actually realised that processor is actually a 2800+ Barton but I think it's rated as a 2200 (at least that what it is recognised as in windows). I remember when a mate of mine was helping set it up, we weren't able to go higher on the fsb- BIOS wasn't booting up and there were different conflicts. So we dropped it down to 133 and it is now the processor is running as 1.6G. Does this sound right?? I haven't tried to play around with the settings since 'cause I wasn't too sure where to start. I don't suppose this has anything to do with the RAM problem?

 

BIOS shows current DRAM frequency as 266 so I guess that means the fsb:ram is 1:1.

 

Also I already changed the DRAM voltage from 2.6 to 2.7- made no difference. All 3 ram modules are DDR400.

 

I'll try clearing CMOS as suggested and let you know how I get on. Also I'll have to check out the Kingmax chip number and the L2 cache when I get home later.

Thanks heaps for all the help.