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  1. The computer won't boot at 11 tras no matter what latencies I choose and still gets memtest errors. My friend convinced me to trade my lanparty board with him for a p4 gigabyte board and a 3ghz proc. It is about equal to my other machine when it was runnin at 1.8ghz but this thing worked right off the bat and runs flawlessly. I'll just milk this until I can afford to go all out on an Opteron system. If I go Opteron I might as well go for a multi proc tyan board I think ocz was designed for intel chipsets because it REALLY likes this P4 machine. I hate goin to pentium when I have been an amd guy for so long but I can't bash it now because it has given me no problems so far.
  2. Rgone's suggestion has already been tried. Put in 200mhz cpu, didn't work with defaults, rmaed board, still doesn't work. I'm going to just return both this mobile 2600+ and the dfi lanparty board for a refund on monday. I'm going to cut my losses, get back all the money I can, and buy a completely different computer. I'm definatly going to do more research next time in forums and not just reviews. One thing I am sure of though, I am definatly never buying another dfi or ocz product ever. I knew I should have bought that gigabyte board and some corsair. Oh well... This has been a very nerv racking but informative experience. Hopefully my next system decides to run at the speeds it's rated at and with hardware that it is listed to be compatable with. Thank you all for the time and thought you put into this and I'm sorry that I never got it working. I just can't take anymore of this. All I wanted was a computer that would run, this one obviously won't do that. If it is going to take major tweaking to get any sort of usability out of this system then it isn't worth using. I have wasted about a year of my life on this computer's problems and it isn't going to get another second. Thank you all again for your support. -Folken
  3. I put in a memtest cd and got this result in about 2seconds, then memtest locked up: Memtest Result The only change I made in the bios was upping the fsb to 217, I'm trying memtest at 200 right now and it is running fine. Is there any 1 test in peticular I should run or should I let it do all of them?
  4. I tried your suggestions mott13 but it didn't like those voltages to much. When I set the vcore up that high I have to put the fsb up to around 220-230 and 10x multi to get it to boot. But once it is up it is VERY unstable. My ocz doesn't seem to care what voltage it is on. I have never had anything change by changing the vdimm. I had them at 3.3 at one point and it didn't cause any change in behavior. I have a 120mm fan blowing on the ram so it stays nice and cool no matter what I put it at. I do have my waterblocks back on if you think I should try crazy voltages on my cpu/chipset. Temps don't change no matter what voltages I use.
  5. here are pics of my bios as it is right now. These are the most reliable settings I've had sofar. Everything else I have tried either doesn't boot, BSODs, or doesn't run Prim95 for more than a few seconds. Bios Pics I know it is only at 200fsb but that is all I'm going for at this point. When I change the voltages either up or down from where they are Windows doesn't load. When I change the ram settings to expert windows doesn't load. Anything else I should be messing with? Like the agp bus speed or anything? If you think it would run stabler over 200 or something I'll go for anything. I all I want is a stable comp at this point. I'm tempted to just say screw it again and underclock it to 166mhz again so it is at least usable even if it does suck.
  6. It just ran prime95 on maxpower/heat torture test for 1hr and 31min before craping out. But when I rebooted the machine it hung at the windows loading screen again.... I'm so confused now, lol. I had to turn it off/on again to get it up. I haven't entered the bios once since I got the 20min prime95 run. It must be mocking me for continuing to try and get it working or something.
  7. I have been able to run prime95 for 20min and had no reboot problems with these settings. I have never had prim95 run more than 4min w/o halting or bsod until now. 200fsb 66agp 11x 1:1 auto vcore (1.55v) auto vagp auto vchip 2.7vdimm ram settings at optimal This is a definate improvement over my last cpus so I guess I'm making progress. I'll try afew more voltages to see if I can get it to prime longer. I tried setting the fsb over 200 just to see what would happen and it posted fine, it just wouldn't load windows. With the 3200 proc it would not post and give a siren if I went over 200. I don't plan on going over 200mhz fsb at all right now but it brings my hopes up that this proc will work when I see it can do it.
  8. I got my 2600 mobile installed it comp saw it as a mobile set all bios settings manually 200mhz fsb 66mhz agp 11x 1:1 1.65vcore 1.5vagp 1.6vchip 2.7vdimm Ram: 73332 (didn't touch anything after that) windows installer ran fine. comp rebooted, comp hung at windows loading screen. turned off comp, let it sit a min, turned it on, booted right up. installed drivers, rebooted, hung at loading screen. Worked fine when it was turned off/turned on again but hung on next reboot. I tried just doing reset afew times but it won't boot unless it is turned off/turned on. I tried up to 1.7vcore/down to 1.57vcore. and 1.7vchip and 2.6vdimm, 2.8vdimm does the same thing each time. I'm using stock cooling for everything and temps stay under 45 for cpu, under 40 for chipset. I didn't have much time to mess with it yesturday but do you have any tips for me to try when I mess with it today? The system seems to run fine until I reboot, I'll do more extensive benchmarks today.
  9. If I don't hear anything against it by tomorrow I'm going to just get a mobile 2600+ off newegg.com. I noticed a mobile 3000+ on newegg, would that be worth looking into? It looks like it is just an unlocked desktop 3200+ though... Hopefully I'll be able to run at 200fsb with that 2600...
  10. I guess the cheapest next step would be to try a mobile... If it doesn't work right off I'll just send it back. Do you have any suggestions to an online place I can purchase one? I would just go right to Newegg but if other places are selling a supposidly better one please let me know. I guess this board just hates desktop barton processors... It didn't work with my 2500 and it doesn't work with my 3200. If this is always the case maybe the 3200 should be taken off the supported list on the dfi website, lol. If I do get a mobile am I going to have to do that volt mod I keep reading about in order to use it at all? Or is that just for crazy ppl that run theirs at 260mhz
  11. I hate having to RMA this board again. Is it really that possible that I got 2 boards that have the same exact problem? I can RMA it to newegg again I suppose but what if I have the same problem with yet another board? It would have to be something else then shouldn't it? I swear that this motherboard's bios just has to many crazy settings and some of them arn't set right. Could someone who has the 6/19 bios just list all of their ram and genie bios settings exactly as they are in thier bios? And/or tell me exactly what all of those extra ram settings are?
  12. According to this chart: http://pub.lorenz.bei.t-online.de/winbondlist.htm The corsair 3200 modules I tried were BH5 modules. I got the 3200+ because I didn't care about overclocking anymore. I just wanted to run at 200mhz fsb and I figured that would be the way to do it because it is rated to do that with out any tweaking. I shouldn't need some special rare ram to just run my system at factory rated speed should I? Has anyone here even run their Lanparty ultra b at completely stock speeds? Or do you have to tweak the crap out of it to get it to work at all? I know the usual purpose for this board is overclocking but if it can't ever run at stock speeds shouldn't it be advertised as only working if you oc the crap out of it? I have tried to oc right off the bat but it results in no posting and usually a siren of beep.....beep.....beep.... and I have to clear the cmos using the jumpers. tried 217mhz (ram default speed) and various others, 230mhz was the highest I tried. I of course upped the vcore and vdimm when doing this. We will see what becomes of my friends hardware testing but I'm not very hopeful. I'll bet all my parts are going to work fine in their comps I'm pretty sure the 3200+ I have is unlocked. I noticed all the L1 Bridges are connected just like my unlocked 2500+. I wish I would have noticed that before tearing my machine appart but oh well. When/if I put that comp back together I'll try lowering the multi to see if it is indeed unlocked.
  13. I have gutted my machine, put all the stock heatsinks and fans back on everything, and given the parts to friends to test out. If nothing comes out of that I think I'll just go for a new AthlonFX proc/motherboard or something. Maybe that will be more compatable with everything. This computer has cost me soooo much time and money I hate spending even more on it but I REALLY would like a computer that at least can run at it's rated speeds.
  14. I have tried many different memory timings for the standard set of timings at least. I have tried things like: 23337 (ram default) 233311 24447 244411 2.53337 2.533311 2.544411 I have tried CPC on and off for all of those timings. All the crazy timings after that I have not touched except for the cpc. Everything after the first 5 timings: T(RC) 13 T(RFC) 15 The next group is all Auto SuperBypass Enabled Sync Mode Memory Bypass Auto Data Scavenge Rate Fast All Driving Strengths set to Auto I think that about covers it. I'll take a pic of the bios screen when my camera finishes charging. I found a pic I had taken before flashing to the 6/19 bios If you want to look at that. The 6/19 bios about doubled the ammount of options in there though. The pic is here The OCZ PC3500 DDR has been out since before the Ultra B was avaliable. OCZ lists compatability with this motherboard on thier website: http://www.ocztechnology.com/support/motherboard/68 I had orrigionally bought this ram right when the Ultra B came out and have since RMAed it and gotten very new 3500 modules. I had orrigionally thought they were to blame so I RMAed them. I knew it couldnt be the memory when even Corsair wouldn't work in this board. I swear the bios just isnt detecting the settings properly for this ram. It detects the first 5 latency settings fine but everything after that could be set wrong and I have not found anything online that tells me what these settings should/could be. The OCZ site had recommended settings for the 3500 modules in the Ultra B motherboard but they were designed for if you were having problems going beyond 230mhz fsb. I tried em anyway but they didn't work. The recommended settings were found here I have also tried a barton 2500+ proc that is known to run perfectly at and beyond 200mhz fsb. It went up to 215mhz w/o any probs in my friends machine. His machine just has samsung 2700 modules w/o heatsinks and he was able to run at 215mhz and run prime95 w/ no probs. He is one lucky bastard, lol. I have also tried setting all of the voltages manually and upping/lowering the voltages on everything to see if that helps at all. It doesn't change a thing I have noticed that all of my voltages jump around a lot or at least the bios and the hardware doctor say they do. My vcore is always skipping around to like 1.640, 1.632, 1.680, 1.664. All my other voltages are skipping around like that also, some by as much as .04 or .10 up and down. I have a feeling this is just because the winbond chip is reading it wrong though because my fan controller reads the 5v and 12v channels as staying very stable at 5v and 11.8v. The motherboard I RMAed had even more variety in it's voltages. That is what made my replace my powersupply from a vantec 520watt to an Antec 550watt.
  15. Here are my system specs for those who do not like to click links: My Machine: Athlon XP 3200+ Barton 1GB OCZ PC3500 EL DDR (2x 512MB Modules) DFI LANParty Ultra B ATI Radeon 9800Pro 256MB DDRII 2x Western Digital 36.7GB SATA Raptor 10Krpm 8MB cache (Raid0) Maxtor 120GB 7200rpm 8mb cache 16x48x Pioneer slot feed DVD Plextor PX-708A DVD-RW 8x +R, 4x –R, 40x CD-R, 40x CD Antec TruePower 550watt Power Supply 4” UV Cold Cathode 12” UV Cold Cathode Chieftec DX01BLD/SPX02BL Case w/ side window and fan Cooling: In case: Innovatek Fan-O-Matik 5x 80mm case fans (controlled by Innovatek Fan-O-Matik) 3x 72mm fans, 2 for cooling graphics ram 1 for cooling system ram Innovatek InnovaCool rev3 CPU water block Innovatek Graph-O-Matik northbridge water block Innovatek Graph-O-Matik VGA water block Cooling system attached to outside of house: 185 gallon per hour Pond Pump Plastic Skippy peanut butter jar 10” X 12” Radiator (copper pipe, aluminum fins) 4x 92mm case fans (attached to radiator) Approximately 30’ of 8mm clear tubing Approximately ¾ gallon of distilled water ~4 capfuls of WatterWetter ~4 drops of Red UV Dye Peripherals: 22” Mitsubishi MultiSync FP2141SB Logitech Cordless Elite Keyboard Logitech Dual Optical mouse Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 Surround System Cambridge Soundworks FPS2000 Digital Belkin 1200VA UPS Canon i950 Photo Printer
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