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So I finally ordered my parts (said cyber Monday but had an awesome virus hit this computer and figured just reformat and give it to my dad... gotta love hand-me-downs) here is the parts I went with: COMBO MOBO & HEATSINK: ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z LGA 1155 Intel Z68 & Scythe SCSK-1100 100mm Shuriken Rev. B 3 $194.98 COMBO CPU & RAM: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz & CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 $304.98 COMBO GPU & PSU: EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 570 HD & CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX750 $469.98 HDD:Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive X 2 $179.98($89.99 each) SSD:Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) with Transfer Kit $214.99 CASE:Thermaltake ARMOR A30 VM70001W2Z Black SECC MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case $119.99 MOUSE:Logitech M570 Black 1 x Wheel USB RF Wireless Laser Trackball $49.99 THERMAL:Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $12.98 Free 2.5 HD Case Subtotal: $1,551.86 the combos actually saved me $55 which is always nice for buying those misc parts that you always forget to put in. I'll get the parts in about a day or so (gotta love living next to cali) so i'll get some pics of the finished product

ill stick with the 2500K - I probably wont see a huge difference (well I know I will going from this old rig Q6600 2.4ghz quad to 3.3ghz sandy). Yea, I might find a 750w and be fine with it (been looking for gold certified ones for better energy savings) Idk about the SSD, I might watch for that Crucial M4 128GB to go on sale but I cant find the "shell shocker deal" page on newegg. Also I do have a newegg business account - I might check over there and see if anything is reduced in price. I usually like to pick everything up all at once - which is kind-of why I want to wait for Cyber Monday because it's the most potential for huge amount of sales. I don't have a problem with mail-ins but yeah, pain in the butt to send in and wait for your cash... it's like paying taxes and waiting for your tax returns =/ I know cases are all about personal preference but what's a good airflow one for a microATX? I picked fractal because of the build review I read but I kind-of want to get a case looking more like a receiver style rather than computer Thermaltake ARMOR A30 VM70001W2Z Black SECC MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case I guess i'm getting sick of having tower computers but then again probably a pain in the butt to work around and airflow restrictions in the compact cases

Yeah I am kind-of back and forth on the mini-ATX and ATX - it's just in the back of my mind "will a mini-ATX have enough airflow?" I do like alot about the MAX Z68 and pretty cheap for the comparisons like Sabertooth or Deluxe (guess it's because it's a miniATX vs ATX) Pretty much use Photoshop,Premiere,After Effects,Dreamweaver and SoundBooth - Photoshop and Premiere are the only programs that give me grief usually with loading up and compiling video. I might go with the "K" just in case I want to OC one day but your probably right, I won't see a difference in much from 2500 to 2600 expect in my pocket. The superclocked is just because it's the same price - but yeah, if it was a higher price I wouldn't pick something already clocked. Well it is actually, this computer will replace the one in my bedroom connected to a 55' TV and 30' side monitor - I usually get on minecraft if I dont have much time but on a sunday (besides watching football) I play FPS games like borderlands or BF. I'm still a gamer, just only have so much free time to open some whoop butt. I actually switch to some caviar greens 2TB's with an addtional SSD 120GB (still dont know which brand to pick for myt SSD) Yeah I use PS alot and play some minecraft (which are both RAM suckers) - I didn't know which RAM to pick so I kind-of went off the review from Tom's hardware because RAM, PSU, and MOBO's arent my forte (never can figure out differences haha) My Setup updated: MOBO:ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard (i think im sticking with the MOBO) CPU:Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core GPU:EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP HDD:Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive X 2 SSD:Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) RAM:CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 PSU:CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified CASE:Fractal Design Arc Mini Black High Performance PC Computer Case w/ USB 3.0 and 3 Fractal Design Silent Fans Subtotal: $1,536.90

Dont think i'll ever SLI again - plus if i get this microATX, I won't have enough room for dual GPU's (throwing my fatality soundcard into the new system) unless the onboard is actually close to the sound quality. I will look into throwing a 900W+ PSU Well I need to hit the hay - I will have to recondition my wishlist a bit tomorrow. I'll switch up the SSD (which idk which brand to go for), up the PSU watts, rethink if i want a microATX MOBO and case.

geez... haha i can see why it's $350 though, it's nice because i do have alot of USB ports being used (two externals, tablet, bluetooth keyboard, RF mouse, etc etc) I never have used both my dual gigabit LAN ports on this rig (nforce 790i) but couldn't afford this MOBO and probably never use its full potential before it becomes outdated also i picked - OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G which has Trim support I also did check out the 2600K and if you say how it works out (idles to save power and opens up in "game-time") then i'm sold. I do have to leave this computer on 24/7 for the media server being used in the house so any power saving techniques are awesome

Yeah, I'm retired extreme gamer - I do love playing high end FPS's and MMO's once in awhile which is why I lean towards a gaming MOBO (never OC'd my old rig, always scared of melting parts haha) Yeah, my first choice was the 2500K but didnt know the difference between the "k" and "non-k" versions Awesome on the HDD's, yeah - HUGE load times on my photoshop because of the brushes,patterns,fonts,etc etc which the SSD might help alot then. (will be my first time using a SSD) For it being a mATX build, it was just for "the hell of it" but I'm kind-of worried about the cramped space and not enough airflow (i usually go with Antec cases because of massive airflow) my reference from this build was actually off - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microatx-gaming-overclocked,3039.html but i already had most of my parts picked out before finding this review/benchmark So i'll probably ditch the case + mATX and just go ATX

I'm looking to upgrade from this 3-4 year old rig - was using it for workstation for Adobe and WAMP, media server for the whole house (family members using PS3 to access through Tversity), and somewhat gaming when I have the time. my budget is max of $2,000 but like to keep it around $1,700 and I'm looking for Price to Performance (not top of the line) here is my rundown, I think it's pretty solid but I might be wrong? (love second opinions) My Setup updated: MOBO:ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard (i think im sticking with the MOBO) CPU:Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core GPU:EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP HDD:Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive X 2 SSD:Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) RAM:CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 PSU:CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified CASE:Fractal Design Arc Mini Black High Performance PC Computer Case w/ USB 3.0 and 3 Fractal Design Silent Fans Subtotal: $1,536.90 Time of Purchase: Cyber Monday (hope to knock off a hundred or two off from the discounts) Any second opinions would be awesome

*sighs* it's been awhile since i've been on these forums but you guys are always good at helping me build what I need (this is a WHOLE new thing to me, servers....) Lets get started, I'm building a mutli user database for other service techs (ie: maid service, carpet cleaners, pool service etc etc) using filemaker server advanced + filemaker pro advanced 11. I want them to be able to access a localhost IP (domain name) which will be a website and a login to manage their database(their customer/scheduling database) in a server I own in my home*. I know the 4 main components are HDD, Network Cards, RAM and processors but besides that i'm seriously treading in new waters here on hardware. Budget: $1,000-$3,000 (would like to keep it low and upgrade parts or add additional machines when more clients subscribe when beta testing is over) Build Date: After Black Friday - X-mas Clients: Projecting 25-30 clients using the server at the same-time Usage: Heavy Traffic through monday-friday 9-5pm (because that's usually service times) Connectivity: Will be through web publishing from mobile devices and home computers Data Transfers: If I had to give a number, I would estimate <2MB/sec from all clients because of the scripting is mostly local till that actual transfer from mobile devices/computers it sent to the server. Example database: I've been in business for over 33 years, I've collected data since 1995 with 35,000 records and it equals 18.9MB (so not a HUGE amount of data storage or transfer) Parts: MOBO: ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 Intel 5500 ATX Dual Intel Xeon 5500 and 5600 Series Server/Workstation Motherboard $249 CPU: Intel Xeon E5520 Nehalem 2.26GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 80W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80602E5520 $399 MEMORY:Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR2 FB-DIMM ECC Fully Buffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Server Memory Model KVR667D2D4F5/4G$109 HDD: ??? (I've been told either RAID setup or SCSI HDD's) I don't see a database getting over 100GB's even with 20+ backups Still dont know about cases, PSU, UPS, and a network card - like i said, new to this kind of hardware and trying to do my best to give a guidance but I might be totally off base. If you need anymore information about how i'm setting this up - feel free to ask, I tried to explain the best I could. *home server - in beta testing i'll be running on a residential connection but once in release i'll be upgrading to a commercial account + connection for better performance

ehh i dont want a huge debate going on =).. but all i'm looking for (and my friend is wanting) is something that wont break the bank and is powerful (but aren't we all looking for that? haha) I think El captain might be right tho. See myself, I really don't have a budget - $2,000 in parts for a computer is nothing because I'm on it 10-18 hours a day (i get my money's worth out of it after 3-4 years). Anyways, I'm happy to get criticism from the community - I just like to put a suggested list (that i think might be the right way to go) and hope for recommendations from gurus than just some OP saying "I need to build a system, anyone have a list" with no thought or even time looking. I'm still reading up on the AMD chips, but i'm kind-of liking the setup el captain was giving though. I might even build my own if it's a sick setup (need a gaming/HTPC computer for another house).

ok so new setup list Case - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail MOBO - EVGA P55 LE 123-LF-E653-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail CPU - Intel Core i5-650 Clarkdale 3.2GHz LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Model BX80616I5650 - Retail GPU - EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail PSU - Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified ... - Retail RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model F3-16000CL9D-4GBRH - Retail HDD - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Subtotal : $904.93 (will probably do some price shopping for each part if this is a good setup) I'm sorry but not a huge fan for ATI (bad experience a few times in the past) Is there anything in the NVIDIA line-up that can surpass a 9800 for around the same price? Besides that I feel like this might be a pretty good setup.

yeah, my friend is on a budget. i'll check out the "i" series tonight (i remember hearing about them coming out)

almost the same price but an AMD setup, still rather take a referral than my picks (i'm good at building them, just not picking them) haha

yeah he is on a tight budget - so anything will help me out (and let me know how much for the 9800gtx) why not 775's - they going extinct now?

Well I got a friend into Warhammer online (an MMORPG) and his computer is just at the lowest end of that game it makes me laugh how long it takes to load and move. I suggested to him I could build one (besides buying from a brick and mortar) for cheaper and a better build. Well here is what I'm looking at and what I can work it: Client spec: Budget - $500-1,000 TV monitor - 37 inch, 1280x768 resolution OS is pending (he is a student, so trying to get windows 7 for $35) Life-span - 3 to 4 years Computer use - Gaming My list of parts I came up with: Case - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail MOBO - ASUS P5N-D LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail CPU - Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7500 - Retail GPU - EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail PSU - Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified ... - Retail RAM - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail HDD - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Price rundown (on the listed) Case - $139.99 MOBO -$119.99 GPU - $134.99 PSU - $99.99 CPU - $115.99 RAM - $99.99 HDD $109.99 ____________ total $820.93 (this is without any of the rebates newegg gives) You think this is a good build to do? I'm kind-of sketchy on the MOBO and PSU. Any help would be awesome

did some research and went for Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - hope it works out good. thanks anyways cjloki