Lenny_Nero

Just read up as many overclocking guides as you can, they will all give you something, the smart thing is to take it slow, keep everything cool keep a note of your settings.

Get something like Acronis true image and take partition images. I have loads (and take more every day) of various stages of the install. I can have a fresh install in less than 20 mins. But then I also use Win2000 which does not get corrupted with overclocking like XP. That Stop msg often points to memory problems, sometimes drivers, but its because the drivers are getting back bad checksums from their page, try to fine tune your memory a bit more, as for 2-4-4-6 I doubt you could tell in real world computing, I cant from 2-3-2-5 to 2.5-3-3-6 and not even without looking at numbers for 3-3-4-8. Of course YMMV.

They also dont read from the same place so its not a big deal that they dont read the same. As said CoreTemp gives you a more 'real time' reading because its from the DTS in the die itself, not just the socket near the chip.

I think that you are doing well for your room temp. Also the Noctua is good, but then so is the 9500, its not like your going from stock. if I did the same I would not expect to see more than 1~2c change whatever the direction. Another way is to remove the case side and see if there is a lot of temp change, if there is than you need more air flowing in and out of the case (and you do need in and out). Did you check the contact surface of the HS/f ?, its a good quality unit so I expect that its flat, but you never know there might be a problem with the mounting and it is not sitting flat, or one that got past the quality checking... But again your temps are not too bad. As for TIM just about every time I have seen, or read (web pages) about someone putting the stuff on they use too much, and I expect that most users would get the same result with the cheapest stuff, or not using any at all.

The best way to find out what you are reading from would be to read up the info for the prog that you are using, or get a copy of CoreTemp and check it up against that. TBH CoreTemp is one of the better ways of checking the CPU temp, I have spent quite some time on this and even writing up a report on all of the temp progs that work with the DFI RDX200 CF-DR board in another forum and it shows many others up, even the pay version of Everest gets the cores named wrong. As for the max temp of your chip that depends on what your chip is, but the bottom limit for around 75% is between 65~70c there are a few that are 62c and some even lower, this is for the main Athlon range, the Opterons have a bit more leeway, but I stick to the same 65c for all of mine.

Its been done, I have collected 4 in the last 6 to 8 months. But yours is the first in a plain text format, all the others I have seen were some form of picture. I have the relevant settings for what I use most (1.2~1.5v) set out in a ruff table in the book I use for working out and keeping all of my BIOS settings in.

I have sort of stopped looking into the skt 939 temp thing, but something I did read for the first time somewhere online, while checking up on my data, when I replied to another thread in here about this (IIRC the one I linked to) about the TCaseMax being something that is not being used so much anymore. Now there is also a TJunctionMax, but I just thought that was a temp register at the 'junction' between 2 or more cores in a multi core set up, I could be wrong. But something I have found and try to get across is that it seems that there is a lot of variation even between what seem to be the same model of chip and that is where the data sheet thing comes into play. After all AMD must know best. As I have said I think I have a chip that might have been 'born' to be something else and by the turning off of some areas of it made into another. Because when I put in my info to something like the AMD Geeks overclock database dynamic chip type thing it will always fill in the rest of the data for me... but wrong for the chip type I have, and I end up with a 4400+ or a 4600+ but I have a 4200+ and sort of says that I cant have my socket/voltage/wattage for the model/stepping/clock/cache :confused: But the lowest temp I found for mine was 65c so that is where I am working from, but the thing to remember is that if you hit your chips point under normal [ish] use all that 'should' happen is that the power gets cut and you can reboot and have another go.

AMD say in their data sheets that for the Opteron chips that anything above 70c (71c is shutoff point) is going to get you into the shut off zone. There is quite a lot of info about this in http://www.diy-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76176 But to be safe stay below ~60c with the core temps (data read from the DTS) and you should not have any problems, and when you run the 'Core Temp' prog look for TcaseMax as that is the shutoff temp.

Yep, I have done quite a bit of reading up on this in the past, because I used to have one of the TBird type chips in my Asus that would get b0rked in less than a second if the temp when over the Tcasemax (which from what I did a quick read on last night is not really used any more because...). But now the shut off switching and temp reporting is much better so the chip will close down before any real problems... if you are using the standard HS/f but as I expect that most of us will be using something better it should be less of a problem, and its all down to the Thermal Profile (TDP ???) of the chip, which is not so much of a hard and fast x2 == 65c and Optys == 71c sort of thing, its down to your chip build and all that, but I think the lower limit is 65c so that is what I am working with and if I have more room then all the better. But the more I looked into this last night (and again for a few hours) the harder it became and the more I found that I cant find my chip profile in any of AMD's (and others AMD Geeks for 1) active pages/lists. I have the box here which has the 4200+ x2 skt 939 sticker and everything I run reports it as that and 110 watt... but when I put this info into the AMDGeeks (and others) thing it fills in stuff I dont have and the only way I can make it work is as a 4400+ x2 or 4600+ x2 ??? Sorry signmeuptoo, I got mixed up with the AMD .pdf's and the link is for the Opterons, if you go to AMD and search the whitepapers for the x2 stuff... or just take it as read that 65c is a good number to stay below that is what I am working with.

Maplins kit for 10 quid. Most places I have worked for have used this place but IIRC you need an account. This is another I have used a lot. And another Another. RS Components is another great place, but I live near one I have used for years, I dont know what they are like to order on-line from.

If it really is a UV light it will do the opposite, I used to have UV lights on the last stage of my fish tanks bio filters to kill off all of the unwanted bacteria. Its more of a chance that its the daylight... or they are not pure UV and just a fuller range pushed into the UV end of the spectrum to get the reaction.

Tcasemax and Tjunction max are the 'max' temps that you can go to with out causing damage to the CPU (and I doubt it will cause any damage), I know this as fact for AMD but I dont know for Intel but I expect its the same. The newer chips have a better heat/thermal shut off and unless your running without any cooling at all should not 'kill' the chip like the older athlons could (like the Tbirds) because the power is just cut at what ever point. I have yet to see a CPU 'wear' out (or even hear of it in 30 odd years) and the old man has not either, and he has worked with just about every one. I have a Celeron that is getting on for 10 years old and has had more than a 100% overclock for 5 or 6 years and because of my wireless runs at 100% 24/7, and has done so for the last 5 plus years and its not going to ware out anytime soon. My x2 core 0 can go above 52c (DTM temp) when I load it up when above 2.8 GHz, but that is still 10~12c below the max, and after a while both will even out at the same. Find your chip on this page and then follow the link to read about yours, or go to AMD.

Oh... ok mine must be different then as I dont have any drivers on this computer for my newer printer, which would not work on the computer with it installed without the drivers, but that disk has never been near these computers... and I just called it up fine, I dont have its tools able to be used on this (or any other) computer, you just need to print from something... like text and code from TextPad or Vim, graphics from Hypersnap or PS and Firefox so on. Same with the scanner and plotters. I can do the same from any computer anywhere via the interweeb.

Stuck my head in hear and found this thread, I have not read it all (every word) I was a bit surprised to see many of the Intel users seem to have missed the extra step that their chips (from the 'D' onwards) allow Vista to report back everything you do with 'your' computer. I still run Win2000 as my main OS with just about every company I have anything to do with and as M$ will be supporting it for twice as long as XP-SP2 (I expect it will get longer, they were forced to bring it up from the year it was given at first) there is no need to change. I run many things that are 'said' to be XP only, even down to my HDTV card, I thought that was going to be a bit of a problem, but that only took a few hours to sort the drivers out, it is only a UI change and the system restore kludge (that was the reason for ME to be released) after all. Even Vista's 'super security' is looking to be just as untrue as it was with XP, but as long as you keep your DEP on and dont turn off the UAC than the 64 bit version is a bit safer... just, but keep that mike turned off For the XP lovers that still think the desktop versions of Linux are too much like hard work you could help the people working on ReactOS to push that bit harder with a few beta tests of some of your stuff and get it pushed thru a bit faster.

I only have one computer with my two printers connected to it, I then have them connected via my networks, so any computer, running anything can just print no matter if there are drivers or not. Does mean I have to get up and walk, or push the chair back depending on where I am, but it just means if the OS can do TCP/IP...