flyguy20 Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 Okay I just bought the following : Mid-tower ATX case w/ 450 W Enermax PSU AMD 64-bit 3200+ DFI Lanparty nf4 SLI-DR 2x Kingston 512mb pc3200 Nvidia 6600 GT 128mb 80 gig Maxtor HD 16x sony dvd burner I hooked everything up and booted the computer. Both RAM sticks, which are in DIMMS 2&4 for dual channel, and everything else was detected. I made it so the cdrom was the first booted item, put in my xp disc, and booted my computer. After formatting the HD into NTFS I began windows installation. After installation completed, when it usually asks you to name users and if it can help you setup an internet connection, I got a black screen and the computer restarted. Then, whenever it got to the windows screen with the scrolling green/blue lines, it would freeze while loading and sometimes a BSOD would flicker before the computer restarted. I have checked all connections and installed everyhing maticulously. I tried loading into safe mode and was successful. I then installed the nf4 drivers and video card drivers while in safe mode and restarted the computer. It loaded into windows fine! Then, however, I installed SP2 and everything went to hell again. I have reformatted and tried again but all of this keeps happening. What is going on?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC1X1 Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 Ok (On further request, I had to organize but okie!) 1) First did you overclock it in anyway yet? 2) Make a sig with your stuff 3) Cause: BSODs are prob due to either an overclock or incorrect PSU, 4) whats PSU do you have? 5) Are you sure everything is 100% instaled correctly. 6) Keep posting, if you need more help, you got it . Heh just saw your PSU, but please put it in sig or I might not see it hehehe, ok! 450 watts is alrighty, but this is a power hungry board, 4 connectors and known issues with PSU's, I am not familiar with Enermax. 7) Do this, go to my PSU Alert!!! Post, look up a poster named DavidHammock, in his sig look at the PSU guide etc, and see if yours meets the requirements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy20 Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 No I didn't overclock it or anything. I pretty much left it on the settings it came with except I changed device boot priority. Would a bad power supply cause the system to hang during the Windows laidng screen (booting normally) but not let it boot into safe mode? There ARE like 6 fans in my case. . .and I am running two HDD's and two CD-ROM drives. I wonder if that's it. . . I never thought about the PSU. Might not be it though! It doesn't make sense, if it was the PSU, that it had trouble loading into SP1 after install until I installed the mobo drivers in safe mode, and then ran absolutely fine for a couple of days before I upgraded to sp2. I just wish I could format, put in windows, and have it install/boot up normally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanSeasforMe Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 Power Supply Guide for DFI N4 Ultra/SLI Mobos: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10854 CPU CPU CPU / WHAT BIOS DO I NEED : http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...50&postcount=20 NF4 Ultra-D Step by Step New Build http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...04&postcount=49 NF4 UPDATE ESCD *(Step 19 ? explanation) http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread...ght=update+ESCD Rgone also has a nice build thread in the stickys of the amd-64 forum. *(would include it but I dont have the link atm.) Welcome to the forums, Replace your power supply as it will be the first thing suspect in troubleshooting any issues. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC1X1 Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 Putting SP2 takes more resources, the last straw in the camels back type of thing, check your ram as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC1X1 Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 No I didn't overclock it or anything. I pretty much left it on the settings it came with except I changed device boot priority. (Does nothing relevant, unless your HDD doesn't boot, but order does not matter) Would a bad power supply cause the system to hang during the Windows laidng screen (booting normally) but not let it boot into safe mode? There ARE like 6 fans in my case. . .and I am running two HDD's and two CD-ROM drives. I wonder if that's it. . . I never thought about the PSU. Might not be it though! (90% Chance it is, its a common problem we have, try upgrading and make sure its native 24 pin) It doesn't make sense, if it was the PSU, that it had trouble loading into SP1 after install until I installed the mobo drivers in safe mode, and then ran absolutely fine for a couple of days before I upgraded to sp2. I just wish I could format, put in windows, and have it install/boot up normally. (It could be coincidence, however the fact you had to enter safe mode, shows a problem, I am assuming its due to resources, hence stability problems, once your CPU has to clock higher, it BSODs. Keep in mind, under safe mode, Cool N Quiet activates your CPU @ 1000 mhz, afterwards it starts reving. And if your located around florida we can chat . Also, 7 fans is a very bad idea, for a 450 Watt PSU, first theres no reason to have 7, after 3-4 unless they are all tornados, although you wouldnt be able to hear you computer anymore. Your killing your rail with that many plugged in, make sure they also are not all in the same rail. 2 HDDs + 2 CDROM, a bit hardware happy aren't we , look for 600 watt-850 watt if you like to continue putting the stuff in, and overclock . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red930 Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 Always qualify your RAM before worrying about installing the OS. Always clear CMOS before trying to setup the rig. It's better to be safe than sorry. Neither of those PSUs meet the minimum recommendations... http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...75&postcount=13 Read and understand this thread before continuing your setup... http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6615 A lot of very nice people went to a lot of trouble to offer this advice. Please use it wisely. ExRoadie Okay I just bought the following : Mid-tower ATX case w/ 450 W Enermax PSU AMD 64-bit 3200+ DFI Lanparty nf4 SLI-DR 2x Kingston 512mb pc3200 Nvidia 6600 GT 128mb 80 gig Maxtor HD 16x sony dvd burner I hooked everything up and booted the computer. Both RAM sticks, which are in DIMMS 2&4 for dual channel, and everything else was detected. I made it so the cdrom was the first booted item, put in my xp disc, and booted my computer. After formatting the HD into NTFS I began windows installation. After installation completed, when it usually asks you to name users and if it can help you setup an internet connection, I got a black screen and the computer restarted. Then, whenever it got to the windows screen with the scrolling green/blue lines, it would freeze while loading and sometimes a BSOD would flicker before the computer restarted. I have checked all connections and installed everyhing maticulously. I tried loading into safe mode and was successful. I then installed the nf4 drivers and video card drivers while in safe mode and restarted the computer. It loaded into windows fine! Then, however, I installed SP2 and everything went to hell again. I have reformatted and tried again but all of this keeps happening. What is going on?! from sig 420W RAIDMAX PSU AMD 64 3200+ Kingston 2x512mb RAM PC3200 Lan Party nF4 SLI-DR 6600 GT 128mb PCI-Express 80 Gig WD HDD 120 GIG WD HDD (Secondary) 16x Dual Layer DVDR/DVDRW 56x Sony CD-ROM 7-built in chasis fans 4-pin 12v built in LED/effect lighting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy20 Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 Thanks ocean and PC1. It turned out it just needed SP2. I did that streamlining thing or wahtever its called and now I have an xp sp2 cd too. I learn something new everday. But you cured something that had me stuck for a couple of days (with very little sleep) so thank you thank you thank you!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanSeasforMe Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 Glad to hear you got it going. Qualify and replace your power supply if needed. I personally have seen many a HD/Mem killed over time in an underpowerd emachine / dell / hp as they were fed low volts. Make sure your Psu dosent cause you problems later and the dfi needs juice. Feed it high test for best results. If you hiccupp or blue screen or lock up, my first instinct will be to suspect the PS. 480 is the minimum and it needs a beefy 12v. Sure sure, many have used lesser power supplies successfully, but by the same token, I have seen many many threads here where BSOD's and wacky windows acts were cured with a better Power supply. You will know when you start drawing serious juice with multiple apps / cd/dvd burning. Hopefully if anything it will be a minor issue and not a major hardware killer when and if it comes. davidhammock200, if it gets his stamp of approval its copestetic. If not, then replace for best results and longevity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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