0SER Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 Hello everybody, I'm having memory errors. I've run memtest and have and havn't gotten errors. A few weeks ago I tested my sticks individually and got them RMA'd, waited 2 weeks got them back and still have memory errors. I think it's my mobo, the reasons for this are: -My 24pin power plug (at the mobo) if wiggled will shut off the computer, and will not turn back on until it's wiggled into the right position -I just got my memory replaced, and it doesn't always get memory errors in memtest -My memory settings are the ones that AndyOCZ recommends (he's the one that helped me with my RMA) -I work at circuit city and have taken my computer in multiple times for my friends there to look at it, the only thing they can figure is that it's the mobo (one of these guys has grown up with computers and knows a crapload about them) I can't think of anything else. IMO it's either my motherboard or my CPU, but I'm pretty sure it's my mobo because of the reasons above. If you have any suggestions or want to help me RMA my board (DFI guys) I'd appreciate anything you can throw at me. I'm getting very tired and frustrated with this and need for my expensive computer to run like it's supposed to. Here's an error I got last night, just using IE iexplore.exe - Application Error The instruction at "00x00df5f6c" referenced memory at "0x00d5f6c". The memory could not be "read". They all read about the same, I don't know if the instructions are always the same, but I do know that I get errors a lot when playing CounterStrike Source. Sorry for the long scattered post, but I'm tired and need help. Thanks, 0SER PS I updated to the latest bios today, I don't really think it's going to help, but I'm going to see if it errors at all. I'm gonna run memtest to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malinois1 Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 You need to update your sig with the current bios you are using. Also post your timings and we can see if we can help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 Hello, Make sure the ATX connector is plugged in properly. Also have you plugged all 4 power connectors into the board. - floppy one under the CPU socket - Hard drive one on top the chipset fan. Can you enter the BIOS and do the following. GENIE BIOS Setting >DRAM Configuration..................Press Enter = New Menu FSB BUS Frequency....................200 DRAM Voltage Control.................2.80 V GENIE BIOS Setting >DRAM Configuration DRAM Frequency Set (MHZ).............200 (DRAM/FSB:1/01) Command per clock (CPC)..............Enabled Cas latency (tCL)....................2 RAS to CAS delay (tRCD)..............3 Min RAS active time (tRAS)...........6 Row precharge time (tRP).............3 Row cycle time (tRC).................11 Row refresh cycle time(tRFC).........14 Row to Row delay (tRRD)..............3 Write recovery time (tWR)............2 Write to read delay (tWTR)...........1 Read to write delay (tRWT)...........1 Refresh period (tREF)................AUTO Write CAS latency (tWCL).............1 DRAM Bank Interleave.................Enabled DQS Skew Control.....................Decrease Skew DQS Skew Value.......................0 DRAM Drive Strength..................AUTO DRAM Data Drive Strength.............AUTO Max Async Latency....................6ns Dram Response........................Normal Read Preamble Time...................5ns Idle Cycle Limit.....................AUTO Dynamic Counter......................Disabled R/W Queue Bypass.....................AUTO Bypass Max...........................AUTO 32 Byte Granularity..................Disable (8 Bursts) Run memtest for a bit. If you have not done so already, Flash to BIOS 510-2FIX. http://uploadstore.com/userfiles/sharp/DFI...OS_510-2FIX.exe - Once the BIOS flash has finished, turn the PC off. - Clear the CMOS using the JBAT jumper, leave it there for 10 minutes. - Then put the CMOS jumper back to the save postion - When you Power the PC enter the BIOS. - Load optimised defaults - Save and exit. - Enter the BIOS and go to CMOS reloaded. - For each profile, save the current settings. - Then save and exit. - Now you can enter the BIOS and change the settings. Very important that you do that after a bios flash. Then try the above BIOS settings again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0SER Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 I'm going to work now and won't be able to respond for a while. I'm trying those ram settings with my current bios and run memtest, that bios is a beta right? Will that void my warranty? Those memory timings are slow, why not run my memory at its rated specs? 2-2-2-5 instead of 2-3-3-6? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 Hello, For testing purposes only, those slow timings should work on any 2-2-2-5 module. Sometimes tight timings can be a problem if the other bios settings are wrong. Yes it is a BETA BIOS, but it has cured a lot of problems for many users. And it has been tested by many users. Only VOIDs the warranty if it goes wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0SER Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 I'm on lunch, and those settings have gone 10 passes with no errors. I'm going to try that bios you suggest, but, can I use winflash with it? Or do I need to make a bootable cd or something? Which settings should I use for my memory now? Once I flash to that bios? If you could suggest some, I'll try them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted July 31, 2005 Posted July 31, 2005 Hello, If it is working maybe you should leave it on BIOS 623-3 and experiment with the BIOS settings. GENIE BIOS Setting >DRAM Configuration..................Press Enter = New Menu FSB BUS Frequency....................200 DRAM Voltage Control.................2.80 V GENIE BIOS Setting >DRAM Configuration DRAM Frequency Set (MHZ).............200 (DRAM/FSB:1/01) Command per clock (CPC)..............Enabled Cas latency (tCL)....................2 RAS to CAS delay (tRCD)..............2 Min RAS active time (tRAS)...........5 Row precharge time (tRP).............2 Row cycle time (tRC).................7 Row refresh cycle time(tRFC).........9 Row to Row delay (tRRD)..............2 Write recovery time (tWR)............2 Write to read delay (tWTR)...........1 Read to write delay (tRWT)...........1 Refresh period (tREF)................AUTO Write CAS latency (tWCL).............1 DRAM Bank Interleave.................Enabled DQS Skew Control.....................Decrease Skew DQS Skew Value.......................0 DRAM Drive Strength..................Auto DRAM Data Drive Strength.............Try 1/2/3 Max Async Latency....................6ns Dram Response........................Normal Read Preamble Time...................5ns Idle Cycle Limit.....................AUTO Dynamic Counter......................Disabled R/W Queue Bypass.....................AUTO Bypass Max...........................AUTO 32 Byte Granularity..................Disable (8 Bursts) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0SER Posted July 31, 2005 Posted July 31, 2005 Ok, Sharp, with the setting you gave me earlier I set the timings to 2-2-2-5 and ran memtest for 16 passes with no errors. I'm going to set these new timings and see what happens. It'll be Monday before I can respond because I'll be out of town. I'm still using the 623-3 BIOS. Thanks, 0SER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0SER Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 I'm back, and I have to go to work in a little bit. I went with the newest settings you gave me Sharp and went 73 passes with no errors. Do you have any more faster settings I could try? My end goal is to try and overclock my CPU to 2.7 or 2.8 ghz very stable, if possible, that's why I got watercooling. I really appreciate your help. 0SER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 Hello, Those are quite aggressive timings and very fast for 200Mhz. If you are going to overclock the memory with 1:1 ratio you will have to adjust the memory timings a lot. Is windows ok now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0SER Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 I havn't gotten to fiddle with windows enough to tell if it's all good yet. So far it's working great. If I were to overclock to 2.7 ghz, what kind of memory timings would I use? Would I use the same settings and just increase my timings? (2-2-2-5) Or is there a certain procedure that I need to follow? I've never tried overclocking with as much knowledge as I have now, even though it doesn't seem to be enough. Thanks for all your help, 0SER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 Hello, Have a look for some reviews. http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?page=oczplatpc3200 2.5-3-3-7 is what they had to use. In general when overclocking, you must increase the memory timings + voltage. 2.8v-2.9v should be enough for your chips. I will leave you alone now unless a new problem occurs Check out the overclocking section, http://dfi-street.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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