xen Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 Official DFI Lanparty UT NF3 S939 Ultra Tweaks Thread ALWAYS REMEMBER TO USE THE "SEARCH THIS THREAD" FUNCTION!!!! Here is a quick synopsis of sorts that includes all the major things that you should know about this board. This isn't a well layed out guide for people but rather any information that one might need to look at quickly and be on their way is added here. This is open to whatever changes sorta like open source... haha. -NO FLAMES, ARGUING, MODs please delete as you see to keep this guide as trim as possible- THANKS TO: AbsoLoot Angry_Games DeNs Hoot MembetSince OldGuy RebelsHaven RGone Vladmir Xen Blinker0 LINKS Important DFI Info! (critical) - updated 5/16/2005 Click Here A64 Overclocking - Explains why "x.5" multipliers are bad Click Here NF3/NF4 Memory guide -johnrr6* Click Here Rebel AND Hoot's Voltage Readouts -OldGuy* Click Here TEMP READINGS: MBM5 w/ Soundx98's data modification. Mystery Behind the Memory Divider -Vladislav* Click Here Confused by HTT? LDT? FSB? A64??? Click Here Bios Checksum Error? Click Here Info on Arctic Silencer's Click Here Clearance on Vantec Iceberq chipset fan w/pics! Click Here Why you shouldnt use Driver Cleaner with nforce drivers Click Here NF4 Ultra/SLI Mobos: PowerSupplies List Click Here Cold Boot? Sata Trouble? Try This ---> Click Here Overclocking Options: HTT Speed: 200-450mhz in 1mhz steps HTT Multiplier: 1x-5x CPU Multiplier: 4x-20x AGP speed: 66-100 in 1mhz steps Extra Notes: - When using certain HTT speeds the CPU clock can go up to 15MHz over what is expected. - In DRAM config, for 1:1 speeds with ram, set to AUTO. - Mem Guide: Auto = 1:1 (ie. 300htt/300mem) | DDR133 = 3:2 (ie. 300htt/200mem) | DDR166 = 6:5 (ie. 300htt/250mem) - AGP should be set to 67 or 68 Mhz for stable HTT over 230Mhz - Slots 2&4 (yellow) fixes going over 290 at 1T command rate for some Overvolting Options: Vcore: 0.80-2.0* in 0.025v steps (Can someone please confirm this?) Vdimm: 2.55-2.85* in 0.1v steps Vagp: 1.5 to 1.85 in 0.05v steps Notes: - vAGP Undervolts about 0.05v by default. - Board undervolts when not using the +0.Xv voltage adjustments - board overvolts if you do. - vDimm overvolts by 0.1v up to about 3.1v - LDT voltage needs to be 1.75 to go over 290~300HTT Peripherals and Other Devices: IDE: 2 ATA 133 slots IDE raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD SATA: 4 SATA 150 slots (2 are unlocked) SATA raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD SATA & PATA Drives in RAID: yes Firewire: 3 IEEE 1394A ports (One on I/O Shield, two on board headers) LAN: nForce3 Gigabit Ethernet (Integrated) Sound: Realtec ALC850 6 channel (?) Notes: - SATA Ports 1&2 are not locked, so avoid the use of these ports when Overclocking. -------------------------------------- Pros: - Can handle high HTT speeds - Has the ability to mount large heatsinks (i.e. XP120 has no issues with clearance - heatpipes must be pointing down) Cons: - Stock BIOS has problems with running 2T over 260MHz with 2x 512MB Modules - 705 BIOS has problems for some with saving settings. - SATA Ports 1&2 are NOT locked - use 3&4 when OCing. Other Misc Tips: - Avoid earlier BIOSes as they don't offer any advantage over the stock BIOS(v6.00), and can be quite problematic - OCZ Booster works on this board. So far has been tested up to 3.6v - No known voltmods known as of yet, apart from removing voltage accuracy resistor, which is more likely to be replaced than removed. - You CAN use VX4000 and a Booster in conjunction on this board! - XP90 & XP120 heatsinks willl FIT! But should be mounted with pipes down, regardless of ATX/BTX - Thermalright screws are needed for mounting retention bracket for XP-90/120, stock ones are too long. - RAS to CAS Delay of 4 clocks best with TCCD - No one Has a Rev2 -Angry_Games* - Thermalright screws are needed for mounting retention bracket for XP-90/120, stock ones are too long. - If you cannot select a higher multiplier, your processor is probably locked. AMD64 3000+ are locked @ 9x max. 3200+ are locked @ 10x max, etc... - LDT voltage needs to be 1.75 to go over 290~300HTT - AGP should be set to 67 or 68 Mhz for stable HTT over 230Mhz - CAS to RAS Delay of 4 clocks best with TCCD - AMD says 70 degrees is max on 9nm rev E cpu's. Set your max temp shutdown in your bio to 60 - AMD has finally said San Diegos are 1.35v to 1.40v variable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelsHaven Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 It's undervolting, and the BIOS has no effect on the readings. Everyones board is going to be slightly different as there are tolerences involved..... But all will undervolt... DFI nF3 Ultra-D 602 Bios Venice 3200 Vcore: Default = 1.34V CPU VID 1.50 = 1.44V CPU VID 1.55 = 1.50V Default +.1 = 1.38V Default +.2 = 1.46V Default +.3 = 1.51V Default +.4 = 1.63V Default +.5 = 1.67V Default +.6 = 1.76V Default +.7 - No Thanks! 1.55V +Default = 1.50 1.55V +.1 = 1.54V 1.55V +.2 = 1.64V 1.55V +.3 = 1.69V 1.55V +.4 = 1.83V 1.55V +.5 - No Thanks! 1.55V +.6 - No Thanks! 1.55V +.7 - No Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 Good job Xen........ Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky! Sticky!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeNs Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 I just sent Xen a whole lot of info that I collated ever since I started using the board and since the other thread started. I didn't realise you'd already started this one. Check your PMs xen ---dens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNs Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 In case a mod wants to add the stuff themselves. I've integrated the tips from his into my version. The only thing not in here is the quotes, as I can't grab them without redoing them when quoting it. The quotes should be left out and just put in the thread as tips, as they're freaking messy and hard to sort through when you're looking for tips. ---------------------------------------- Official DFI Lanparty UT NF3 Ultra-D Tweaks Thread Overclocking Options: HTT Speed: 200-450mhz in 1mhz steps HTT Multiplier: 1x-5x CPU Multiplier: 4x-20x AGP speed: 66-100 in 1mhz steps Notes: - When using certain HTT speeds the CPU clock can go up to 15MHz over what is expected. - In DRAM config, for 1:1 speeds with ram, set to AUTO. - Mem Guide: Auto = 1:1 (ie. 300htt/300mem) | DDR133 = 3:2 (ie. 300htt/200mem) | DDR166 = 6:5 (ie. 300htt/250mem) - AGP should be set to 67 or 68 Mhz for stable HTT over 230Mhz - Slots 2&4 (yellow) fixes going over 290 at 1T command rate for some -------------------------------------- Overvolting Options: Vcore: 0.80-2.0* in 0.025v steps (Can someone please confirm this?) Vdimm: 2.55-2.85* in 0.1v steps Vagp: 1.5 to 1.85 in 0.05v steps Notes: - vAGP Undervolts about 0.05v by default. - Board undervolts when not using the +0.Xv voltage adjustments - board overvolts if you do. - vDimm overvolts by 0.1v up to about 3.1v - LDT voltage needs to be 1.75 to go over 290~300HTT VCORE READING TABLE - BIG thanks to Hoot for these measurements!! Readings taken with a Digital Multimeter. BIOS-set voltages on left, actual vCore readings on right. 1.400 = 1.317 1.425 = 1.355 1.450 = 1.382 1.475 = 1.410 1.500 = 1.437 1.525 = 1.464 1.550 = 1.494 1.550+.10 = 1.538 1.550+.20 = 1.635 1.550+.30 = 1.681 1.550+.40 = 1.819 VCORE READING TABLE - BIG thanks to RebelsHaven for these measurements!! 2.5V = 2.58V 2.6V = 2.69V 2.7V = 2.80V 2.8V = 2.91V 2.9V = 3.00V 3.0V = 3.10V 3.1V = 3.16V 3.2V = 3.17V * We will be adding the differences with the vCore resistor on and off later. -------------------------------------- Peripherals and Other Devices: IDE: 2 ATA 133 slots IDE raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD SATA: 4 SATA 150 slots (2 are unlocked) SATA raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD SATA & PATA Drives in RAID: yes Firewire: 3 IEEE 1394A ports (One on I/O Shield, two on board headers) LAN: nForce3 Gigabit Ethernet (Integrated) Sound: Realtec ALC850 6 channel (?) Notes: - SATA Ports 1&2 are not locked, so avoid the use of these ports when Overclocking. -------------------------------------- Pros: - Can handle high HTT speeds - Has the ability to mount large heatsinks (i.e. XP120 has no issues with clearance - heatpipes must be pointing down) Cons: - Stock BIOS has problems with running 2T over 260MHz with 2x 512MB Modules - 705 BIOS has problems for some with saving settings. - SATA Ports 1&2 are NOT locked - use 3&4 when OCing. Other Misc Tips: - Avoid earlier BIOSes as they don't offer any advantage over the stock BIOS, and can be quite problematic - OCZ Booster works on this board. So far has been tested up to 3.6v - No known voltmods known as of yet, apart from removing voltage accuracy resistor, which is more likely to be replaced than removed. - No one Has a Rev2 (Angry_Games) - You CAN use VX4000 and a Booster in conjunction on this board! - XP-90/120 should be mouned with pipes down, regardless of ATX/BTX - Thermalright screws are needed for mounting retention bracket for XP-90/120, stock ones are too long. - RAS to CAS Delay of 4 clocks best with TCCD ***TCCD TIPS COMING*** -------------------------------------- LINKAGE Important DFI Info! (critical) - updated 5/16/2005 Click Here NF3/NF4 Memory guide -johnrr6* Click Here Rebel vs Hoot's Voltage Link -OldGuy* Click Here TEMP READINGS: MBM5 w/ Soundx98's data modification. Mystery Behind the Memory Timing -Vladislav* Click Here Confused by HTT? LDT? FSB? A64??? Click Here Bios Checksum Error? Click Here --------------------------------- THANKS TO: AbsoLoot Angry_Games DeNs Hoot OldGuy RebelsHaven RGone Xen ------------------- Any help in correcting my errors in there (i'm sure there are some) would be most appreciated. Regards, ---dens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lucky Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 I dont recall seeing anything mentioned about the cold boot prob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 lucky, put together some data about the problem and ways of fixing it if u can... I knew i left it out but i didnt get a chance to gather all the info about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGuy Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 lucky, put together some data about the problem and ways of fixing it if u can... I knew i left it out but i didnt get a chance to gather all the info about it. It seems 705 was the fix for most. My computer has not failed to fire up everytime since 705... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsoLoot Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 Couple other tips, and I'll get some BIOS screenshots of DRAM config later. LDT voltage needs to be 1.75 to go over 290~300HTT AGP should be set to 67 or 68 Mhz for stable HTT over 230Mhz Slots 2&4 (yellow) fixed my problem with goting over 290 at 1T command rate CAS to RAS Delay of 4 clocks best with TCCD XP-90/120 should be mouned with pipes down, regardless of ATX/BTX Thermalright screws are needed for mounting retention bracket for XP-90/120, stock ones are too long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 i never had a problem with cold boots and i know a lot others dont either. I dont want to list it as something solid cause as far as i know it hasn't been confirmed. And please Den, edit your post , as most of that info is in the first post. I took some of it but keep what is different and get rid of the rest..... Absoloot, i added your comments.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNs Posted July 21, 2005 Posted July 21, 2005 Mate, no it isn't... No offence, but the layout you've got is really hard to read, especially with the quotes. IF you just click quote on the post of my verion and copy it into your first post, it'll make things a crapload easier to go through than the current setup. ALL the data that you've got in yours is in mine, plus everything else that i've added. The only thing you need to do is quote my post, copy from the title down into yours, and go from there. To be honest, I would much rather have created this thread, as I've updated this list more than daily, and I kept track of the board from before the last thread was even started - back when the thread in "Ask DFI" was active, before it was locked. Actually now that I looked at your post, the only thing I can see that you took from mine was the Heading. That's it. So much for the hard work I put into it I've updated my post again with more data. My nick is DeNs, not Den. Regards, ---dens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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