jelbo Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 Hi there, I've been reading about fried RAM and non-booting boards here for the last couple of days, and it got me real worried. I ordered myself a new PC that the shop will assemble for me, and I bought the RAM elsewhere. The PC has been delayed for quite some time, so I can still change parts if I want. Anyway, I'm not sure if the cold boot issue has been resolved yet, same for the high voltage RAM that gets fried. I ordered the specific parts after I've been advised by some people who're really into overclocking/building systems. I'm planning to overclock my 3000+ Venice to about 2,2GHz. I'm planning to overclock my RAM to some degree as well. My question is: Is there a way to avoid the cold boot issue/fried ram problems by choosing different RAM? I think it's best to choose low voltage RAM to play safe. If so, can anyone give me some good reccommendations? I bought the RAM (OCZ 1G Kit 400MHz PC-3200 Dual Channel Kit (Winbond) [OCZ4001024WV3DC-K]) at a Dutch shop who can sell me like every kind of RAM available. URL for the RAM I have: http://www.pcgate.nl/product_info.php?cPat...roducts_id=3570 Some sidequestions: Is the cold boot issue resolved already? Maybe it's better for me to choose another motherboard that has less issues? I won't use it's full potential anyway. Many thanks for help. ~Jelle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 Hello, The cold boot issue, (from what I have read.) The board is not the problem, it is the memory modules that become greedy after you push a lot of voltage through it. The only reason it happens with the DFI board is because DFI has given the user the ability to run the modules at very high voltages. Doing so is what causes the problem. The modules after a while get addicted to the high voltage and so when you try to run them at, eg 2.6v it does not work - fails to boot. And the BIOS at startup(after power cord has been removed) does not apply your voltage setting specified in the BIOS. So that is the problem. The newer BIOSes have fixed the problem for some users, a good sign but I think DFI should do a poll for asking people with the cold boot problem to vote, (cured or not cured). So the board is ok, just the voltage causing a bit of a problem. If there are any memory modules that do not work well with 2.6v - 2.8v by design, Then you will also experience the cold boot problem - but that is rare and again it is down to the modules. New BIOS will cure that, eg 510-2FIX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Games Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15719 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelbo Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 Thanks a lot for your support! And thanks for clearing that up, Sharp. I'm going to swap my old RAM with this new one, even if I have to pay something extra, it'll be worth it :nod: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelbo Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 I e-mailed Andy from OCZ, and got a quick reply. He recommended me one of these: 32000 Gold: 1GB (2x512) D/C Kit - OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K 3200 Platinum Rev 2: 1GB Dual Channel Kit PN - OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K I'll go with the Platinum one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suio Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 Smart choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar_333 Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 Smart choice. ditto, same thing i did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelbo Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 suio, are those RAM timings specific for the v1.0 of that Rev. 2 RAM? (OCZ Platinum Rev 2 v1.0 PC3200 512x2, 280Mhz 2.5-4-3-7 Orange) Because the OCZ website says timings are 2-2-2-5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suio Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 The 2-2-2-5 timings are for stock frequency (200 Mhz, no overclock). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelbo Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 suio, I see you're running the 510-2-FIX BIOS. Doesn't that add additional voltage to the RAM at startup to fix the cold boot issue with high voltage RAM? What BIOS should I go for with this RAM? Currently, I think I should choose the regular 510-2 one; http://home.no/trac3r/Bios/DFI.LANPARTY.NF4/N4D510-2.zip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorrento Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 I e-mailed Andy from OCZ, and got a quick reply. He recommended me one of these: 32000 Gold: 1GB (2x512) D/C Kit - OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K 3200 Platinum Rev 2: 1GB Dual Channel Kit PN - OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K I'll go with the Platinum one I am using that too... excellent choice Check out the BIOS guides made for this RAM... I was having troubles till I read the guide written by AndyOCZ and wow!, 250 mhz at CL 2.5 3 3 7, 270 mhz at CL 2.5 4 4 7... and I think I can do a lot better, but I am not greedy :nod: Hello, The cold boot issue, (from what I have read.) The board is not the problem, it is the memory modules that become greedy after you push a lot of voltage through it. The only reason it happens with the DFI board is because DFI has given the user the ability to run the modules at very high voltages. Doing so is what causes the problem. The modules after a while get addicted to the high voltage and so when you try to run them at, eg 2.6v it does not work - fails to boot. And the BIOS at startup(after power cord has been removed) does not apply your voltage setting specified in the BIOS. So that is the problem. The newer BIOSes have fixed the problem for some users, a good sign but I think DFI should do a poll for asking people with the cold boot problem to vote, (cured or not cured). So the board is ok, just the voltage causing a bit of a problem. If there are any memory modules that do not work well with 2.6v - 2.8v by design, Then you will also experience the cold boot problem - but that is rare and again it is down to the modules. New BIOS will cure that, eg 510-2FIX. Ohhh :eek2: This is the first explanation I read... I was worried about this, what who where... but since my RAM is low voltage TCCD I should't worry about it... right? I hope the problem is fixed for everyone with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelbo Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 Yeah, Sharp really cleared that up for me as well. Sorrento, which BIOS are you using? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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