Bypolars 875P-T Issues thread.

[bypolar]

Ok, since Acegoober is a good guy I will stop hijacking his thread and start one of my own.(Good suggestion Ace) This side of DFI's forum is a tad slow anyways.

 

I do understand that this is a 9 month old board and DFI has other pokers in the fire by this time. I also Note: that Angerygames has sumitted these and other issues to the TW headquarters with only minor feed back from them.

Issues: Listed in order of importance to me.

 

1.The initial boot power off problem.

 

1a: This is when I turn the system Off, a complete shutdown.

1b: When I go to turn it back on I get a 1-2 sec fan spin up then system shuts off.

1c: There is a 2-3 sec pause that occures after I press the power ON button for the second time before the 1-2 sec spin up. The 2-3 pause occures everytime I press the Power ON button consectivly till system boot.

1d: it takes 3-6 times before the system will power on fully.

 

2.System locking up / Loading up.

 

Symptoms:In the order they occure.

2a: tasks slow to a hault or almost a hault.

2b:sound is then lost.

2c:system freezes and video is lost.

2d:A system rest is needed to correct the issue.

 

Root of the Issue I think: I have a driver conflick it seems with the ATI TV tuner and either the chipset drivers or the sound drivers. The Locking up, Loading up issues seems to only show its self when the TV application is running. I also have had to reinstall the ATI multimedia application several time after the system freezes.

Things I have tried: I have tried using ATI multimedia drivers .03,.06,.08. I have tried ATI video drivers 5.1-5.6. I have tried the ALC655 drivers off the CD and the ones listed on the DFI site. Have only found one different version of the Intel chipset drivers and there was no difference between them.

 

3: This issue could just be a Hardware limitation.

 

3a: The clock readings(Via post screen) show 0MHz-8MHz if I choose a FSB higher than 275.

3b: I have not tried anything to solve this issue, I will try disabling the PCI/clk in the bios as suggested by lightspeed.

[BigStan]

I think you need to try a stronger PSU. I know OCZ is good. I have one. But it could still be too weak or to flakey. Specially with 3-10K cheeta's. If that doesn't help, try pulling everything apart and reseating everything. If that doesn't help RMA the mobo.

 

Also, what fsb are you running those Geil's at with 2,2,2,5 timings?

[bypolar]

I think you need to try a stronger PSU. I know OCZ is good. I have one. But it could still be too weak or to flakey. Specially with 3-10K cheeta's. If that doesn't help, try pulling everything apart and reseating everything. If that doesn't help RMA the mobo.

 

Also, what fsb are you running those Geil's at with 2,2,2,5 timings?

 

 

The Geils will only run 210-215 @ the 5,2,2,2.0 timings. with 2.9V I have benn running them 6,3,3,2.5 up to 250 solid and 6,3,4,2.5 up to 268 2.8-2.9V 268 is the max stable 1:1 I can get from the board.

 

I really do not think a RMA is going to fix anything. unless they would send me a Ultra NF3 939 board as a replacement. LOL

 

I will try the board with out the SCSI controler and just use a single Sata drive and see what results I get.

 

I accomplished something. I removed the ATI9800Pro and installed a MX4000 PCI and the start up issue has dissapeared. I beleave the below statement made by lightspeed is correct. I will buy a different AGP card to confirm this and post my results.

 

Quote:The issue you are having with the system turning on/off is due to the 3.3v rail overvolting when the system turns on, which trips the PSU to turn off. The cause of this is feedback on the 3.3v rail from your ATI 9800 AIW which is interfering with the overvoltage protection circuit on the mainboard. You also are seeing messages stating there is no power connected to your All-In-Wonder as well, right? This issue is very easy to re-create as all one needs is an ATI 9800 series card or anything older than that, and it will re-create itself on demand:END Quote

 

I remember in the early NF2 days there was a Problem with the ATI9700Pro's doing the Exact same thing that is going on here with this board.

 

I purchased a Leadtek K7NCR18D pro Ultra Early NF2 board The one on black PCB. I then went out and picked up a 9700 pro and the combonation did exactly the same thing, except that that combo would never post I would only get the 1-2 secs fan spin. Ultimatly board makers put the blame on ATI, and ATI clamed nothing but they did release a revised core and the Problem has been gone every since.

 

If the New AGP card fixes the Issue with the boot. and the Second issue is driver related ( Still working on it) then all I have left is haveing a board that will post and Run above 270FSB 1:1.obviously the 3rd delema is not a direct problem with DFI persay it is just a personal preference. and The only thing I could ask for is oskar to devote some time to a bios fix, if applicable. That would mean steeling time away from the Ultra-D crowd. :angel:

 

Onward and Upward!!

[Guest LightSpeed]

Glad you got issue 1 worked out ok

The strange thing about the AIW9800 issue is that out of all the boards I have tried the card in (and there have been ALOT); the only one that showed this incompatability was the DFI 875P-T. No boards by ASUS or ABIT show this behaviour, and I mean none.

Regarding issue 2, I think it has to do with the PCI slot your SCSI controller is in.

The least problematic of the PCI slots I have found is the very bottom one. I had lots of issues trying to get my Audigy2 ZS to work in any other slot, but it seems to be ok in slot 4. If your SCSI card is not in that slot, I suggest trying it there.

For Intel chipset drivers I would use either 6.3.1007 or the latest 7.xx series from the intel site. I have tested both and had no issues with either.

What you may want to try is re-install the intel chipset drivers, then install your video drivers, then do the sound and see if it fixes things up. In some cases it will clear everything up if you do it in that order.

For ATI MMC I use 9.08 and Catalyst 5.6.

Regarding 270FSB+, I really don't think you will get much higher than that with a 6xx CPU and current CPU support; not on this mainboard anyways

FWIW, I could hit 260FSB on my 3.6E using only 1.2v, but good luck getting to 261 at any voltage.

[Angry_Games]

could ask for is oskar to devote some time to a bios fix, if applicable. That would mean steeling time away from the Ultra-D crowd.

 

Oskar does not work on the Intel boards at all.

[fordf250]

About the psu, 450 might be a little low but I run 3 hdd, 3-120mm 100cfmfans,3-90mm fans, 1-80mm and 1-45mm fan,2 optical drives, an x800, sound card and 1.65Vcore, 3.2Vdimm and 1.8Vagp fully stable with a 485w psu.After a few hours of dual prime95 the air from the psu is hot but no hotter than the air from the case 120mm exhast fan.

[bypolar]

Well I unpluged the SCSI drives, Left the card in the PCI slot though. The Power on issue is still there. and My max stable OC is still 268FSB.

 

Lightspeed, I do have the SCSI controler in the bottom PCI slot. I will remove it completly and see if that makes any difference with the TV tuner/ATI Multimedia.

 

I tell ya I sure Like the SCSI stuff so much better that the Sata stuff. it is easy amd windows XP has SCSI drivers built in No need to do the F6.

[red930]

I have the same controller and I could not use it in the bottom PCI slot in my machine. I did some testing and I could only put it in the 2nd or 3rd PCI slot and not have any issue with it.

[bypolar]

Ok, I think I have solved one of the Issues.

 

Quote:2.System locking up / Loading up.

 

Symptoms:In the order they occure.

2a: tasks slow to a hault or almost a hault.

2b:sound is then lost.

2c:system freezes and video is lost.

2d:A system rest is needed to correct the issue.END QUOTE.

 

I noticed the Skype thread and went to install it. once I set it up I noticed my mic was not working from the front Audio Jacks.

 

I took the manual out and went to check the wire assignment. I found that I had hooked up the Mic VCC to the Audio VCC.

 

I am used to having a Mic VCC(Power) pin and on the 875P-T it has a Mic L and Mic R instead of the Usual Mic VCC.

 

Sofar my system freezing has disappeared even while the ATI TV player is running. I am also able to watch TV and Listen to Media player at the same time with sound for both. Before this was impossiable, one or the other program would freeze.

 

Some times it is just the smallest things.

 

[bypolar]

Well The second issue is still here.

 

I tell ya this board is taxing my Patients.

[bypolar]

PC addiction is just as strong as crack.

 

bypolar: Step away from the 875P-T!! :drool:

[bypolar]

Ok, I decided to put the 875P-T on the back burner. I built it as my main system and it is just to annoying for the moment.

 

But Here is the deal. So I removed the board from the chassy and installed a DFI UT250GB+3300. Everything in the chassy is the same, I mean exactly. I get it all pluged it( a 2 hour session) I hit the power button a wammooo!! a 1-2 secs spin and nothing?? I do it again and Bam a 1-2 sec spin and nothing?? I am Like WTF?? give me a break!!

 

I unplug the power to the 9800 and hit PS and it boots up. So it looks like the OCZ modstream has a issue. I remove the modstream and install a Trusty

UltraX UV connect HaHa!! and hook the 9800 backup and the PC boots and I am on the way.

 

Ok so I have been running steady no glitchs, with everything minus the Powersupply and mb and Processer. LOL

 

So what is it, the Powersupply?? the 9800"s or the board?? everything works but not togather.

 

So I have a nother 24 pin powersupply comming and a different agp card, i am going to build a bare system with the 875P-T and see how it go's.

 

It makes no sense the modstream works and runs fine but has a start up issue when connected to the 9800aiw. I mean the unit powered the system fine once it started up and ran it up to 4G. Vary Perplexing.

 

Only me, and you wonder why I am bypolar.