7sudden Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 Earlier this week, I bought a Lanparty NF4 Ultra-D board, San Diego 4000 processor, and a gig of Corsair TCCD ram (twinx 3200XLPT). Now the fun part. Im unable to get the system stable enough to install XP. In fact, I cant even get 20min of Memtest86 to complete. I've played around with the ram settings (latest bios, etc) But I dont know enough about what im doing. Also, I have made sure that all of the power connetors are in place, etc. (sticks of ram are in slots 2 and 4) I would love to simply get a stable install at stock settings before oclocking. Any thoughts? The advertised timings for the ram are 2-2-2-5 any help would be very appreciated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGone Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 First things first always. Relavent and specific signature made here will help a lot as some users might "recognize" your setup and problem... If you had been up in the critical and non-critical informational stickys at the top of the forum you would have seen that and links to MOST of what I am going to have to take time and point out to you. http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...75&postcount=13 Official statement on 24 pin... http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10854 Later P/s thread with real recommends. Davidhammock200. http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...367&postcount=2 PIcs of FOUR power connectors by "sharp". http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...04&postcount=49 Mini How to Setup...by Ed... http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...595&postcount=4 "mildman's" post about Pentium vs AMD timings on the Corsair. http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...47&postcount=18 "pgamble's" post about Corsair tolerances. Most Corsair must run at least 2.8 volts and often they have had their 'ramguy' say to go to 3.0Volts and for sure turn 'off' CPC (command per clock) or DISABLE it in Dram Configuration of Genie Bios. RGone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithrankittycat Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 I can run that ram at 2-2-2-5 with cpc and bank interleave enabled if I up the dram to 2.8 volts. Also make sure cool'n'quiet is disabled. Tight memory settings didn't mix well with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 Hi 7sudden. I have the same RAM as you - Corsair 3200XL Platinum edition, and had excatly the same problems as you. Windows would almost not install, and then be total unstable. A boot into MEMTest revealed many many errors in Test #8. However each RAM stick for itself in single channel mode was stable, even with 2-2-2-5 1T timings. My salvation was a bios update to 510-3. After installing it and loading optimized settings the number of errors in memtest reduced from more than 20000 to a mere 100. And after a few hours of playing around with the settings I got my system stable in dual channel mode with the 2-2-2-5 1T settings. You can get the bios here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/114 And my original cry for help here: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread...&highlight=masi hope that helps, But whatever you do, don't loose faith ... you bought a good board and good ram. It only takes a while to get it running masi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7sudden Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 Thanks, Masi! Its a relief to hear that I didnt screw up with my hardware choices! -now for the tedious part. I was looking at the link for the BIOS that you posted. Now there are a few newer versions (618) -would you try those, or stick with 510? Also, since our corsair sticks are TCCD, wouldnt 510-1 be more applicable? The bottom of the page reads: (* -3 for both kinds of rams (310 ram table), -1 for TCCD etc. (326 ram table), -2 for BH5/CH5 etc. (316 ram table)) thanks again for your help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGone Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 This comes up all the time about the dashX. And just one more time I am going to tell it like it is NO MATTER how many have it written incorrectly. You ask how in the hale would I know? I know because I know WHO the 3/26 table bios was written for and why "he" asked that it be written. That is all I am going to say on the subject. dash one is 3/26 ram table based and 'aimed' at UTT/BH-5 dash two is 3/16 ram table based and universal and the BEST bios I have ever used ever ever ever. dash three is 3/10 ram table based and more likely a 'tccd only' type bios but dash two is usually better for most. There might be exceptions to any d*mn rule. And then after you get it all correct as to WHAT the bios might be supposedly better suited for along comes the 'exception to the rule' and all bets are off. Man you are talking to someone that has tried over 45 DFI NF4 bioses and on 4 different DFI NF4 boards and I am telling you what I see day after day after day with a dash two bios, including all my friends who run these boards as well with memory that is greatly preferred by the boards. People that are stable like myself thru prime 95 for hours and hours and 3dmark2K1 stable and superPi to the 32m size at DDR626 or 313FSB with preferred memory. So we been there and done that. RGone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7sudden Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 Masi, care to share some of your settings? Im still having problems. what is your vdimm? what other settings are you running? Thanks again for any help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi Posted June 26, 2005 Posted June 26, 2005 Yo, can give you detailed settings on monday night (middle european time) as I am not at home right now. As for vdimm: I am running with 2.6V bios setting -> but the sensor in the bios actually reads something around 2.74V. Inreasing the voltage to 2.8 and 2.9V did not help me. It actually increased the number of errors in memtest (I think there are other people on this forum who had similary effects). If you can't wait until I send you my settings, try using the bios guide thread in this forum as an guide line. Set your ram timings to the 2-2-2-5 1T and the other settings fairly high (i.e. to relaxed timings) . Then reduce one by one to sharper timings to get a feeling what your memory likes. This is of course only a hint, but it worked for me. Other than that: RGone has of course a point. Just because it worked for me does not necessarily mean that it will work for you. Also,I have not played around with all the newer bios versions. I was so happy to get it to work with the specified 2-2-2-5 1T timings that I stoped (for now ) to play around with other bios versions. But I am sure there is the right bios and the right settings out there, just waiting for you to be found Will post my settings here on monday. ciao masi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 as promised - here are my settings, hope they help you: bios: 510-3 FSB freq: 210MHz LDT/FSB ratio x4 CPU/FSB ratio x10 PCIe 100MHz Cool & Quiet disable CPU VID startup start up CPU VID control auto CPU VID special auto LDT voltage 1,2V Chipset voltage 1,5V DRAM voltage 2,6V DRAM+0,03 disable DRAM frequenzy set 1/01 CPC enable tCL 2 tRCD 02 tRAS 05 tRP 02 tRC 07 tRFC 16 tRRD 02 tWR 02 tWTR 02 tRTW 03 tREF 0780 tWCL auto DRAM Bank Interleave enable DQS Skew control auto DQS Skew Value 0 DRAM drive strength auto DRAM Data drive str auto Max Async Latency auto DRAM response time normal Read Preamble Time auto Idle Cycle Limit 256 Dynamic counter disable R/W Queue Bypass 16x Bypass Max 07 32Byte Granulation disable(8burst) greetings masi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadChicago Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 7Sudden I am replying since my system is very similar to yours and I too was unable to get Windows to install, among other things. The solution to my dilemma was to: a) Flashed BIOS to 6/18-3 found through the forums here, then of course do all required items afte flash (clear CMOS, load BIOS optimised defaults, load system specific BIOS values, etc) B) Increased my Corsair voltage to 2.8V. Followed this to the "T" and have not looked back at system instabilities or errors, etc: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11397 All my BSOD's during OS install were gone and I have not had 1 game (knocking on wood nearsest me!) crash yet, including my new, fresh install of BF2! Good luck! MC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7sudden Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Thanks to everyone for all of your helpful advice. It looks like i'm running stable at 305HTT x9.5, with my Sandy 4000+ -TCCD is also doing great at 2.5-3-4-6, 2.7v -I think that this will be the max for me. Interestingly, my SP-90 keeps the processor running at 39C idle and 42C load. Overall, im happy. Cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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