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Check fatwallet.com for the Dell 2005FPW deals every now and then

 

I've seen it dip under 400 bucks before with the right coupons / dell deals.

 

I haven't personally used the 2005FPW but I have used 2x 2001FP's as well as my current 2405FPW (Drool)!!

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I'll be changing the PSU to the Enermax Noisetaker 535W. It only costs a buck more over the 485W from my local computer store.

That's actually an Enermax Whisper II 2.0 535W. Sorry for the mistake, the model numbers for both of them consisted of EGxxxP-VE so I assumed that they were both Noisetakers. Anyway, how does this model look?

 

This is good, but this is cheaper & better [Antec TruePower].

I'll look into this one. :)

 

If this is (one of) your first time(s) building a rig, take the careful approach.

Yup, this is my first time; been planning this build for several months.

 

btw, what HSF are you planning on using?

I'll be using the stock HS/F that comes with the retail version of the AMD Athlon 64. Some money may show up in my budget since I may pick a monitor that doesn't cost all $400, so some of the left-over money may go to an after-market HS/F since I do plan some mild overclocking. But I'm not going to skimp on the monitor, which I'll be seeing everyday.

 

This will not hurt the CPU as long as you have everything installed normally and properley

This motherboard will shut down by itself if it overheats, right? I've never built a computer before so what looks properly installed to me may not actually be.

 

After flashing you should shut down. Turn off....disconnect power and wait at least 10seconds. Then reset CMOS.....for at least 30secnds (many say for as long as 10mins), then put jumper back to normal, BOOT into BIOS, load optimised settings, reboot into BIOS and tweak whatever you want.

Just for clarification, this means NOT to reboot when the flashing utility prompts me to do so, and just shut it off with the power button?

 

One more question:

1) I plan to install new drivers from a USB key before connecting the comp to the internet. All the motherboard needs are the nVidia nForce Drivers from the DFI website, right? I'm not going to install nTune, ActiveArmor or the Realtec drivers unless I find I need them int he future.

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After reading some posts on this forum, I'm not so sure about using the DFI LANParty anymore. Again, my most important priorities are that the system MUST be stable; I don't mind having to do some tweaking to achieve stability, but I really don't want stability and problems to drag out. I've spent nearly seven years with this old Compaq and don't want to have to deal with unstability and problems for the next seven years, you get tired of these things after a while. Since I don't plan to OC, and want things to be stable, would I be happier with an Intel board? But I do plan to do gaming about 40% of the time (40% websuring, 20% office work) and speed is still important would the nForce4 still be better? I WAS going to order all the parts tomarrow, so I wish I brought up this question sooner, I guess maybe I should postpone the build day until I know for sure which board I want.

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Well this is an AMD board so don't expect too much positive feedback about Intel. But I'm not biased since I use both so I'll throw out an Intel alternative for ya. :rolleyes:

 

Case: Antec SLK3000-B

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811129152

$50.00 + $15.99 s/h = $65.99

 

Processor: Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor 820 2.8GHz

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...oductCode=80830

$265.00 + $0.00 s/h = $265.00

 

Motherboard: ASUS P5WD2 Premium Intel 955X

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131534

$225.00 + $3.50 s/h = $228.50

 

Video Card: eVGA e-GeForce 6600 GT PCI Express

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=322696

$169.99 + $0.00 s/h = $169.99

 

RAM: Corsair 1GB Kit DDR2-800 XMS2-6400 Xtreme Performance Memory w/Black Heat Spreader

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...uctCode=85025-1

$219.00 + $0.00 s/h = $219.00

 

Hard Drive: HITACHI Deskstar 80GB SATA II Hard Drive*******(2 of these for RAID 0 or RAID 1)********

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822145082

$60.00 + $3.99 s/h = $63.99 X2 = $127.98

 

Power Supply: OCZ PowerStream 520 Watt

http://www.xoxide.com/powerstream.html

$139.99 + ??? s/h = $139.99

 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional 64Bit Edition

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16837102034

$154.95 + $0.99 s/h = $155.94

 

Productivity Software: Microsoft Office 2003 Student and Teacher Edition

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Pr...google.datafeed

$124.88 + ??? s/h = $124.88

 

Floppy: Samsung Floppy

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16821103202

$8.00 + $2.50 s/h = $11.50

 

DVD: NEC DVD Burner

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827152040

$42.99 + $4.00 s/h = $46.99

 

Keyboard: Logitech Media Keyboard

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=211098

$20.99 + $0.00 s/h = $20.99

 

Mouse: Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=211125

$42.99 + $0.00 s/h = $42.99

 

Monitor: Acer 17in Flat Panel LCD

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=239015

$225.00 + $0.00 s/h = $225.00

 

Speakers: Creative SBS 330 2.1 Speakers

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16836116161

$28.00 + $5.00 s/h = $33.00

 

Total: $1877.74

 

Remember not to just shop at newegg. Shop around for every single part and go for the lowest prices and you will save a ton of money. When I built my computer I bought from about 8 different sites. Of course you have to make sure they're trustworthy as well. Pricegrabber and pricewatch reviews help out in that department as well. :angel:

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Thanks for the suggestion, Protagonist. :)

 

Is it hard to get the Ultra-D stable? Can a beginner get the board stable? Is it possible in all circumstances to get it stable, and what level of skill is required to do so? Is the design of the nForce4 chipset and the Ultra-D just makes it unstable no matter what is done?

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Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional 64Bit Edition

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16837102034

$154.95 + $0.99 s/h = $155.94

 

Personally, I would stay away from the 64-bit operating system until it's been out there for a while and there are enough drivers and programs that take advantage of it before jumping up.

 

It is my personal opinion, based on my experience with the board, that you should be able to get it stable. It may take a fair bit of work, as mine did. I've had it for about 2 months now and I finally got it stable last weekend (mind you, I wasn't working on it every day). Of course, I also skimped on the RAM and that's what's at fault in my machine.

EDIT: This was my first build from scratch. Before that, I had done some minor upgrades to a pre-built machine. /EDIT

With enough time, you should have a stable computer capable of doing what you want. Question is, are you patient enough and do you have the time?

Good luck either way.

 

J

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Thanks for the suggestion, Protagonist. :)

 

Is it hard to get the Ultra-D stable? Can a beginner get the board stable? Is it possible in all circumstances to get it stable, and what level of skill is required to do so? Is the design of the nForce4 chipset and the Ultra-D just makes it unstable no matter what is done?

I'm sure a beginner can get the hang of it. It just takes time and a want to learn about the inner workings of the BIOS and the computer itself. You might have to spend some time reading up on all the different options in the BIOS and what they all do. So it would take some dedication on your behalf to get things running the way you want.

 

If you don't want to bother with all that then my suggestion might do better. You can get the 32bit xp pro if you want, that doesn't really matter that much since longhorn will obsolete both. But ASUS makes the best Intel boards. And they are incredibly easy to overclock. So if you are looking for a good stable system that will multitask wonderfully and game good too, and will overclock a decent amount pretty easily then that ASUS intel combo might work great for you.

 

And paired with that ram (that is set for high speeds) you will be able to overclock very simply. You could just have ASUS automatically overclock it or you can manually do it yourself (they have both options). And either way you won't have to worry about messing with the ram since it's already set for the higher speeds. Although if you achieve a good stable overclock that you are comfortable with it would be prudent to tighten up the latencies on the ram.

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There isn't any performance difference. Usually the differences are in cooling and perhaps reliability. I have heard the good brands are eVGA, Leadtek, and MSI.

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