Dracula Posted June 7, 2005 Posted June 7, 2005 I have been reading posts here at this forum now for the past 2 months and am only posting now because I'm at the end of my rope here on this stuff. I have tried all the beta-bios (by Oskar Wu) and all the official-bios listed for my board at the DFI website. No matter what I do or try, when I run 3DMark05 or PassMark PerformanceTest v5.0 my system crashes - and yes, I turn off all other interfering user specific programs and processes in the task manager before I run the tests. I've gotten these errors messages, to name a few, at the Microsoft website: 1. Hardware failure: contact original computer manufacturer: The error was likely caused by an unrecoverable system hardware error. These errors are general in nature and can be caused by problems (such as overheating) with one or more of the following computer components: • Random Access Memory (RAM) • System board • Central Processing Unit (CPU) • Power supply 2. Error Message: STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER (Q293078) 3. Error caused by Device Driver: No specific solution found -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JSYK, I have all the most updated drivers for all my hardware - that was the first thing I did after building my system and installing Windows XP Pro SP2. Also, JSYK, I keep the voltages at: CHIPSET = 1.6v to 1.7v LDT (which should be called the Hyper Transport Bus – Lightning Data is an old-school term that is out of date) = 1.3v to 1.4v DRAM = 2.92v CPU <130nm process FX55 [ADAFX55ASBOX]: air cooled with a Thermalright XP-90C HS, Vantec Tornado 119cfm fan and AS5 thermal compound> (I devised a safe algorithm for the CPU voltage – whatever frequency your CPU is running at, divide it by 1.73 to 1.8 and that is the voltage you should be running it at – don’t exceed 1.599 volts because I’ve personally seen no performance improvement and have nearly fried my mobo & CPU doing it above 1.6v) = 1.534v to 1.599v {in the BIOS, ITESmart Guardian v2.01 and CPU-Z v1.29 show lower voltages than BIOS} *I’m using the W0049 680W SLI-ready PSU by Thermaltake and the BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC™ PCIe 512MB DDR3 Video Card w/Dual DVI Retail [bFGR68512UOCX] I've read about people here being grateful for the CMOS reloaded feature - I'm pretty much sick of it! I've been forced to have to use that feature about 3 dozen times or more. And BTW, I found out the hard way about the nTune Performance Utility before Travis posted the "DO NOT USE NTUNE" reply on another thread in this section. I've spent many, many hours on the phone with Ogie and he even admits that he's out of his element on the LANPARTY boards because they are too new. I’ll be blunt, I hate forums and I hate posting in them even more (I’ve had a lot of bad past experience with them and I’m a slow typist). I would like to talk to someone on the phone about this stuff but that’s obviously not an option. I would like a reply from Travis, Robert or Oskar please. Thank You! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- • MoBo = DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR • Memory = 2GB of CORSAIR, TWINX1024-4400C25PT, qt.4 • Current BIOS = 5/10-2 • Video Card = BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC™ PCIe 512MB GDDR3/TV-Out/Dual-DVI (Retail Box) • CPU = 130nm process FX55 [ADAFX55ASBOX] • Optical Drive(s) = ASUS DRW-1608P, qt.2 • Case = Aspire X-Navigator ATXA8NW-BK • Cooling = Thermalright XP-90C Heat-Sink, 92mm Vantec Tornado 119cfm CPU Fan and Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound • PSU = W0049 680W SLI-ready PSU by Thermaltake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAO Posted June 7, 2005 Posted June 7, 2005 i have had the same trouble with 3DM05. The 6800U drivers are hard to deal with. that was my problem. have you tried the 76.41 ? which ones have you been testing using ? and.. when does 3dm05 crash at the begining or at Cpu/Gpu test? i have my rig up know, as Travis would say " i had to fight with it for a while" and haven't OCed it yet. just triying to find the right Bios still, the difference is that i am under phase cooling and watercooling. and using 2x512 Corsair XMS4400 550MHZ 2.5-4-4-8 1T...so i am still waiting for a good post about or configs. i heard that the FX55 is tough to deal with in OC. Is this correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted June 8, 2005 Posted June 8, 2005 I have had the same trouble with 3DM05. The 6800U drivers are hard to deal with. That was my problem. Have you tried the v76.41? Which ones have you been testing using? And, when does 3dm05 crash, at the beginning or at Cpu/Gpu test? I have my rig up know, as Travis would say “I had to fight with it for a while" and haven't OCed it yet. Just trying to find the right Bios still, the difference is that I am under phase cooling and water-cooling. And using 2x512 Corsair XMS4400 550MHZ 2.5-4-4-8 1T...so I am still waiting for a good post about our configs. I heard that the FX55 is tough to deal with in OC. Is this correct? I'm not familiar with v76.41. Where did you find it? I use v71.89 and last night I tried v77.13-beta from guru3D and it made NO difference. Typically 3DMark05 crashes during the GPU/CPU testing phase as you stated, but I’ve also had it give the error message “display window lost focus” right after the CPU portion of the test had completed. I solved this problem by killing every ‘user-specific’ process in the Task Manager (except of course 3DMark05.exe and explorer.exe). This solution was the hokiest, lamest thing I’ve ever had to do to get a program to work, and still not too well at that. Also, I've heard the same thing about problems OCing the 130nm process FX-55 [ADAFX55ASBOX]. I've also heard that the 90nm FX-55 [ADAFX55BNBOX] is supposed to be far better at OCing. The FX-57 is supposed to be released sometime in the next 1 to 3 months; this may be a better solution for you and me. Despite all of this, I don’t believe that my rig should be crashing all the time like it has been. Here's a link to the most recent review at one of the major on-line review sites on our mobo [DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR]: CORSAIR This Tom's Hardware article is recent as of 05-31-2005. If you'll note, on the "Bottom Line: DFI For Gamers" conclusion page, the reviewers state: "Since the nForce4 chipsets have now been available on the market for a few months, the four test candidates were free of problems. Only the DFI board with a beta BIOS version still had trouble with Corsair memory; these issues have been eliminated now, however." I have to completely disagree! Beta-BIOS or standard-BIOS, CMOS load optimal - been there done that - still no dice on any of it! I'm still waiting for an "official" reply here. This is why I would like "real" comprehensive telephone-tech-support on a mobo that I paid my hard-earned money. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- :cool: DRACULA • MoBo = DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR • CPU = FX-57 (90nm process, San Diego core) [ADAFX57BNBOX] • Memory = 1GB of OCZ Technology (1T Mode), EL DDR PC-4800 Dual Channel Platinum Elite Edition (hand-picked, 100% TCCD chips), Qt.2 [OCZ6001024EEPE-K] • Hard Drives = a) 74GB WD Raptor, Qt.4 [WD740GD] B) 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 SATA II, Qt.4 [0A31619] *** Total SATA Storage: 2.296 Terabytes *** • BIOS = 702-2 with Change-Log Update • OS = Windows XP Pro SP2 and Windows XP Pro x64-bit • Video Card (single card, non-SLI Mode) = BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC™ PCIe 512MB GDDR3/TV-Out/Dual-DVI (Retail Box) [bFGR68512UOCX] • Video Driver (nVIDIA) = ForceWare v77.77 (non-Beta) • Monitor = ViewSonic VP191b (new 8ms revision) • Optical Drives = ASUS DRW-1608p, Qt.2 [DRW1608P] • Floppy Drive = MITSUMI 8 in 1, Multi-Media Drive [FA404M] • Case = Aspire X-Navigator, mid-Tower [ATXA8NW-BK] • Cooling (air only) = a) Thermalright XP-90C Heat-Sink B) 92mm Vantec Tornado (119 CFM - 4800 RPM's - 56.4 dBA) CPU Fan [TD9238H] c) Arctic Silver 5 compound • PSU = Thermaltake, 680 Watts, SLI-ready [W0049] • Audio = Creative Labs, GigaWorks S750 (700 Watts, 7.1 Channel Speaker System – Retail) [51MF7010AA000] "Feel however you want. Your opinion still has all the appeal of a warm, flat beer." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazx Posted June 8, 2005 Posted June 8, 2005 set cpc to disable this will set system to 2t give this a try bet it works bazx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAO Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 Well.. hum hum... UPdate :confused: more like a downdate....i switched from SLI mode to Normal mode ... and bang....3lights on, gotta boot from a N5750 on the 2nd PCIE slot to see the bios, and just doesn't want to boot from either 6800U cards... although i have tried some serious CCMOS ( battery style) to make it boot at least once on the bios... even if i dont change anything.. it wont boot twice. Tada... where is coperfield? he must be in my rig somewhere... playing with my nerves... back to some testing.. fighting... in case you are lookng for some dfi Bios here is a quick list/dlwd : BIOS list downloads Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 I do appreciate the responses from you guys here (and btw, major props to you on the killer case mods SAO)! Bazx, I've actually done the 2T thing way before I posted here - no dice dude... but thanks for the try anyway. Actually, since I'm running mem-stix in all 4 slots, I have to run my stuff in 2T in order for my sys to properly post @ all. And yes, I have removed 2 of the 4 stix and ran only slots 2 & 4 (orange) in 1T mode and noticed an actual performance DROP! I'll keep my 4 stix @ 2gigs in 2T - seems to run better that way. BTW SAO, I do have some timings for OCing but I'm still working out some of the kinks. I'll let you know later if I come up with something stable. I would strongly recommend getting rid of the Corsair mem though. I am! I'm trading up to the newer and faster OCZ DDR600 PC4800 mem stix. They should have fewer compatability issues with this DFI mobo. Here's the link (and I would try all 4 DIMMs with mem in each slot - 2 gigs total in 2T mode): OCZ EL DDR PC-4800 Platinum Elite Edition ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- :cool: DRACULA • MoBo = DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR • CPU = FX-57 (90nm process, San Diego core) [ADAFX57BNBOX] • Memory = 1GB of OCZ Technology (1T Mode), EL DDR PC-4800 Dual Channel Platinum Elite Edition (hand-picked, 100% TCCD chips), Qt.2 [OCZ6001024EEPE-K] • Hard Drives = a) 74GB WD Raptor, Qt.4 [WD740GD] B) 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 SATA II, Qt.4 [0A31619] *** Total SATA Storage: 2.296 Terabytes *** • BIOS = 702-2 with Change-Log Update • OS = Windows XP Pro SP2 and Windows XP Pro x64-bit • Video Card (single card, non-SLI Mode) = BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC™ PCIe 512MB GDDR3/TV-Out/Dual-DVI (Retail Box) [bFGR68512UOCX] • Video Driver (nVIDIA) = ForceWare v77.77 (non-Beta) • Monitor = ViewSonic VP191b (new 8ms revision) • Optical Drives = ASUS DRW-1608p, Qt.2 [DRW1608P] • Floppy Drive = MITSUMI 8 in 1, Multi-Media Drive [FA404M] • Case = Aspire X-Navigator, mid-Tower [ATXA8NW-BK] • Cooling (air only) = a) Thermalright XP-90C Heat-Sink B) 92mm Vantec Tornado (119 CFM - 4800 RPM's - 56.4 dBA) CPU Fan [TD9238H] c) Arctic Silver 5 compound • PSU = Thermaltake, 680 Watts, SLI-ready [W0049] • Audio = Creative Labs, GigaWorks S750 (700 Watts, 7.1 Channel Speaker System – Retail) [51MF7010AA000] "Feel however you want. Your opinion still has all the appeal of a warm, flat beer." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THunDA Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Dracula.. Is this happening when you are stock as well ? Please list all your bios settings.. Everything in Geni Bios and DRam config page.. Thanks.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Dracula... Is this happening when you are stock as well? To answer your question simply, yes. I was able, however, to figure out part of one of the problems which was the 'BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC™ PCIe 512MB DDR3 Video Cards' v77.13-beta driver I was using. It got to the point where I cold not play .wmv files or play DVDs on my rig without it crashing each & every time. I uninstalled that BETA graphics driver and re-installed the latest official one (v71.89). This resolved the .wmv and DVD playback/crash issues I was having. Unfortunately, this still does not address the issues I was having (and still am having) with what I mentioned in my 1st original post. ...running 3DMark05 or PassMark PerformanceTest v5.0 my system crashes - and yes, I turn off all other interfering user specific programs and processes in the task manager before I run the tests... It seems to crash (or display a program crash error message) mostly during the CPU portion of the initial graphics tests. And yes, I still have those issues with the BIOS set to stock and I have tried all the various official and beta BIOS versions as stated in my 1st post and all the -1, -2, -3, etc...as I mentioned in this thread's title. As for light Over-Clocking, I do have some OCed BIOS settings that appear to be somewhat stable but as I said b4 I'm still doing some tweaking (remember that extreme Over-Volting is never the solution). I'll list everything once I have it a little more hammered out. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- :cool: DRACULA • MoBo = DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR • CPU = FX-57 (90nm process, San Diego core) [ADAFX57BNBOX] • Memory = 1GB of OCZ Technology (1T Mode), EL DDR PC-4800 Dual Channel Platinum Elite Edition (hand-picked, 100% TCCD chips), Qt.2 [OCZ6001024EEPE-K] • Hard Drives = a) 74GB WD Raptor, Qt.4 [WD740GD] B) 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 SATA II, Qt.4 [0A31619] *** Total SATA Storage: 2.296 Terabytes *** • BIOS = 702-2 with Change-Log Update • OS = Windows XP Pro SP2 and Windows XP Pro x64-bit • Video Card (single card, non-SLI Mode) = BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC™ PCIe 512MB GDDR3/TV-Out/Dual-DVI (Retail Box) [bFGR68512UOCX] • Video Driver (nVIDIA) = ForceWare v77.77 (non-Beta) • Monitor = ViewSonic VP191b (new 8ms revision) • Optical Drives = ASUS DRW-1608p, Qt.2 [DRW1608P] • Floppy Drive = MITSUMI 8 in 1, Multi-Media Drive [FA404M] • Case = Aspire X-Navigator, mid-Tower [ATXA8NW-BK] • Cooling (air only) = a) Thermalright XP-90C Heat-Sink B) 92mm Vantec Tornado (119 CFM - 4800 RPM's - 56.4 dBA) CPU Fan [TD9238H] c) Arctic Silver 5 compound • PSU = Thermaltake, 680 Watts, SLI-ready [W0049] • Audio = Creative Labs, GigaWorks S750 (700 Watts, 7.1 Channel Speaker System – Retail) [51MF7010AA000] "Feel however you want. Your opinion still has all the appeal of a warm, flat beer." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortexics Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 Corsair is just I Don't know lol I have this piece of s**t and it won't even let me clock higher then 222x9 with mem divider and 2T it just sux I can't stand at it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted September 8, 2005 Posted September 8, 2005 On the "approved" list or not, DO NOT USE CORSAIR MEMORY! DFI LANPARTY BOARDS DO NOT LIKE CORSAIR! Since I got rid of that stuff, my rig has been working GREAT! :nod: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- :cool: DRACULA • MoBo = DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR • CPU = FX-57 (90nm process, San Diego core) [ADAFX57BNBOX] • Memory = 1GB of OCZ Technology (1T Mode), EL DDR PC-4800 Dual Channel Platinum Elite Edition (hand-picked, 100% TCCD chips), Qt.2 [OCZ6001024EEPE-K] • Hard Drives = a) 74GB WD Raptor, Qt.4 [WD740GD] B) 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 SATA II, Qt.4 [0A31619] *** Total SATA Storage: 2.296 Terabytes *** • BIOS = 702-2 with Change-Log Update • OS = Windows XP Pro SP2 and Windows XP Pro x64-bit • Video Card (single card, non-SLI Mode) = BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC™ PCIe 512MB GDDR3/TV-Out/Dual-DVI (Retail Box) [bFGR68512UOCX] • Video Driver (nVIDIA) = ForceWare v77.77 (non-Beta) • Monitor = ViewSonic VP191b (new 8ms revision) • Optical Drives = ASUS DRW-1608p, Qt.2 [DRW1608P] • Case = Aspire X-Navigator, mid-Tower [ATXA8NW-BK] • Cooling (air only) = a) Thermalright XP-90C Heat-Sink B) 92mm Vantec Tornado (119 CFM - 4800 RPM's - 56.4 dBA) CPU Fan [TD9238H] c) Arctic Silver 5 compound • PSU = Thermaltake, 680 Watts, SLI-ready [W0049] • Audio = Creative Labs, GigaWorks S750 (700 Watts, 7.1 Channel Speaker System – Retail) [51MF7010AA000] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted September 8, 2005 Posted September 8, 2005 Steer clear of CORSAIR... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- :cool: DRACULA • MoBo = DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR • CPU = FX-57 (90nm process, San Diego core) [ADAFX57BNBOX] • Memory = 1GB of OCZ Technology (1T Mode), EL DDR PC-4800 Dual Channel Platinum Elite Edition (hand-picked, 100% TCCD chips), Qt.2 [OCZ6001024EEPE-K] • Hard Drives = a) 74GB WD Raptor, Qt.4 [WD740GD] B) 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 SATA II, Qt.4 [0A31619] *** Total SATA Storage: 2.296 Terabytes *** • BIOS = 702-2 with Change-Log Update • OS = Windows XP Pro SP2 and Windows XP Pro x64-bit • Video Card (single card, non-SLI Mode) = BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC™ PCIe 512MB GDDR3/TV-Out/Dual-DVI (Retail Box) [bFGR68512UOCX] • Video Driver (nVIDIA) = ForceWare v77.77 (non-Beta) • Monitor = ViewSonic VP191b (new 8ms revision) • Optical Drives = ASUS DRW-1608p, Qt.2 [DRW1608P] • Floppy Drive = MITSUMI 8 in 1, Multi-Media Drive [FA404M] • Case = Aspire X-Navigator, mid-Tower [ATXA8NW-BK] • Cooling (air only) = a) Thermalright XP-90C Heat-Sink B) 92mm Vantec Tornado (119 CFM - 4800 RPM's - 56.4 dBA) CPU Fan [TD9238H] c) Arctic Silver 5 compound • PSU = Thermaltake, 680 Watts, SLI-ready [W0049] • Audio = Creative Labs, GigaWorks S750 (700 Watts, 7.1 Channel Speaker System – Retail) [51MF7010AA000] "Feel however you want. Your opinion still has all the appeal of a warm, flat beer." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted September 8, 2005 Posted September 8, 2005 On the "approved" RAM list or not, DO NOT USE CORSAIR MEMORY! DFI LANPARTY BOARDS DO NOT LIKE CORSAIR! Since I got rid of that crap, my rig has been working GREAT! :nod: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- :cool: DRACULA • MoBo = DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR • CPU = FX-57 (90nm process, San Diego core) [ADAFX57BNBOX] • Memory = 1GB of OCZ Technology (1T Mode), EL DDR PC-4800 Dual Channel Platinum Elite Edition (hand-picked, 100% TCCD chips), Qt.2 [OCZ6001024EEPE-K] • Hard Drives = a) 74GB WD Raptor, Qt.4 [WD740GD] B) 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 SATA II, Qt.4 [0A31619] *** Total SATA Storage: 2.296 Terabytes *** • BIOS = 702-2 with Change-Log Update • OS = Windows XP Pro SP2 and Windows XP Pro x64-bit • Video Card (single card, non-SLI Mode) = BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC™ PCIe 512MB GDDR3/TV-Out/Dual-DVI (Retail Box) [bFGR68512UOCX] • Video Driver (nVIDIA) = ForceWare v77.77 (non-Beta) • Monitor = ViewSonic VP191b (new 8ms revision) • Optical Drives = ASUS DRW-1608p, Qt.2 [DRW1608P] • Floppy Drive = MITSUMI 8 in 1, Multi-Media Drive [FA404M] • Case = Aspire X-Navigator, mid-Tower [ATXA8NW-BK] • Cooling (air only) = a) Thermalright XP-90C Heat-Sink B) 92mm Vantec Tornado (119 CFM - 4800 RPM's - 56.4 dBA) CPU Fan [TD9238H] c) Arctic Silver 5 compound • PSU = Thermaltake, 680 Watts, SLI-ready [W0049] • Audio = Creative Labs, GigaWorks S750 (700 Watts, 7.1 Channel Speaker System – Retail) [51MF7010AA000] "Feel however you want. Your opinion still has all the appeal of a warm, flat beer." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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