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Two chipped corners of Nforce chipset = Instability?


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To DFI:

I have recently tried to install a new chipset cooler, the Vantec Iceberq4 and during the installation I think I chipped two corners of the chipset. It is really hard for me to tell, but I noticed something that looks like filings and there are two corners that don't look as flat as the others. I removed the Iceberq4 because it only made the chipset temperatures go up and I put the stock chipset cooler back on with some AS5.

 

After doing this I started running 3dmark 2k3 and 2k5 to take note of the chipset temperatures on load. Everything was good even when I reseated the Vantec iceberq4 for a 2nd time. But now things in 3dmark look jaggy and the program crashed on me twice. The last time I tried to run 2dmark 2k3 the computer rebooted.

 

My question is, can those two chips on the chipset affect stability in a negative way? Did I mess up my system? I installed everything the way it was after I did the installs. While typing this my computer rebooted again while running 3dmark 2k5. It never did this before. I'm really worried and I feel...sad. Like a school kid losing his lunch money on the first day of school.

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well, keep it in this post i guess. the dfi boys will be on in a while i imagine.

 

sorry dude, that really stinks. i've removed it twice but i don't plan on it again as i don't want to wear out the springiness. isn't the top of it more of a heat spreader type thing? iirc it looks like a smaller gpu? where would the filings come from?

 

anyway, i hope it works out for you.

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Don't be too hard on yourself Pro, at least you are being honest and posting. You're certainly not required to share any of this ill news with us. One way or another things will work out...

 

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Don't be too hard on yourself Pro, at least you are being honest and posting. You're certainly not required to share any of this ill news with us. One way or another things will work out...

 

m :)

 

The greatest part was...this board was becoming a dream to work with. After reading bout some horror stories (no boots, bsods, etc etc.) and such I still bought the DFI with 100% faith that it's a strong board. Well, it is the best board I have ever owned. My install and overclocking was going really well. Now I have hit that hurdle it seems.

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I'm hurting for a response from the DFI guys/gals. I just called a store in downtown Toronto and put the last Ultra-D they had on hold. Hopefully I'll get a response before I go down there and pick it up. I really don't want to put myself in more debt to grab another mobo but I gotta represent the DFI. Because of this shorter week here in Canada, my employer won't be paying me till friday. I will do some extensive testing on the new board that I may pick up today and if it runs nice then I'll know for sure that those chips on the chipset caused the problems. I really hope I can get an RMA or even a repair on this board. I love it to death. Even if I do grab the replacement board today it just won't feel the same. You know like when you have a pet and it dies kinda thing and your buddy just says "Oh just buy another one that looks the same". Bah! Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I'll be patiently waiting on a response.

 

Peace!

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FWIW ...

 

The corner chips are a continuing problem with the reference design for the 6600gt nvidia graphics cards ... the unsupported heatsink "rocks" on the chip and can damage it if you handle the card without great care.

 

In a review (xbit? sorry, but I don't recall), they noted that these GPU corner chips tend to result in instability ... especially if you're overclocking the card.

 

All of the above is true in my experience. I have a Chaintech 6600gt that overclocked pretty well, chipped a corner handling it, and now it'll drop out randomly at normal clocking.

 

I recently pulled the heatsink on my NF3 chip and that chip is the same glassy material as the GPU on the 6600gt (read "fragile").

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Well I went down to the computer store but I didn't grab the motherboard. I tried getting a pricematch but the store refused so the new board was a bit out of my price range that I could not afford it at that moment. This really sucks. I'm just glad I have one system that works. But my pride and joy has been shot down. I just don't get how these two tiny corners could impact stability so much. Are there any repairs for this kind of thing?

 

DFI holla back!

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Thats bad news Pro, sorry to hear about that :( It does sound likely that the chips are the cause of the instability. The only other possibility i can think of is your AS5 application.

Personally i don't think i'd use AS5(slightly capacative) on a chipset, i'd opt for something like Ceramique. I've seen guys have boot/stability issues before when they've used AS5... Granted, they must have been pretty careless.

 

Might be worth taking the Chipset HSF off again, giving everything a good clean down with High Purity Isopropyl(including the board around the chipset) and put it back together again being extra careful, and pray... Just an idea.

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Thats bad news Pro, sorry to hear about that :( It does sound likely that the chips are the cause of the instability. The only other possibility i can think of is your AS5 application.

Personally i don't think i'd use AS5(slightly capacative) on a chipset, i'd opt for something like Ceramique. I've seen guys have boot/stability issues before when they've used AS5... Granted, they must have been pretty careless.

 

Might be worth taking the Chipset HSF off again, giving everything a good clean down with High Purity Isopropyl(including the board around the chipset) and put it back together again being extra careful, and pray... Just an idea.

 

Hey! I was hoping to get some Ceramique but AS5 was all I had. I thought about it being maybe I put too much on there and it got all over the chipset connectors and all but the other day I gave it another look and all the AS5 was on the actual chipset. I still gave it a clean with Isopropyl and decided to boot up the system again and it still crashed out in 3dmark. I don't know what else it could be. I thought maybe it was my graphics card but why would it cause a program to crash like that. Then I thought, maybe it's my O/C but when I drop down to stock settings and try loading 3dmark 2k5 it freezes as soon as the first frame is on. I just can't believe this. It is so hard to make out the chips but yet they cause this much problems? DFI, please help. I'm stuck at this hurdle. This sucks so much because I was almost ready to put this sweet thang in it's case. No such luck this week.

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It's not likely that the little chips on the northbridge chip is causing the instability as the little square you see on the chip is only the die that transfers heat from the actual core. I would try to clean it off with alcohol and re-apply the paste. I can get you a DFI here in Toronto if all else fails at a decent price ;)

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