lanparty nfII ultra b problems

[mufc05]

got the above mobo, i've set it up and the four led lights come on and nothing else,

i've took the battery out, moved the jumpers (clear cmos & FBS 100) left it all overnight still the same

also done the same as above but also took the board out of the case - on a cardboard box with just the min of stuff (cpu, gpu, psu & mem), this is a replacement board as my other one packed up - it was also a dfi lanparty nfII ultra b, i've got a 400w psu surley this is enough?

[Angry_Games]

please check the rules and the Important Info threads stuck to the top of this section, paying close attention to the second post in teh 'critical' thread (about system specs in your sig).

 

this helps us tremendously to help you solve your issue if we can see what is in your system every time you post.

 

Be as thorough as possible please. Voltages, timings, settings, bios version. The more information you give us about the problem, and the more details about your hardware in your sig = more help we can give you.

 

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...701&postcount=2

[mufc05]

now sorted!

[NEOAethyr]

One thing I can think of that used to help me sometmes when it was being stubbern.

Another combination of those things you've heard.

 

Take off the cmos clear jumper completely, startup the computer, all 4 leds will light up (everytime this will happen without the jumper).

Then wait for the hardrive's to init if they're hooked, that is you got to give those some time to init because they're gonna init again after this .

 

Then after the hd's init, place the jumper back on, the unclear (or normal) posistion.

The mobo will init it's self again and hopefully the leds will count down like they should.

If it does'nt work, take off the jumper, press reset, and doit again.

Sometimes it takes a while, like 7 times at best, most of the time it'll doit 1st try, or 2nd try.

Also shuting down again, and then trying it again, over and over helps.

 

Just be careful and let the hardrives init 1st each time you put the jumper back on, that way you don't kill them.

Best to unhook everything except the video card and keyboard.

 

There was one more combination that sometimes works, completely drain the mobo of power, that is, click the switch off the power supply, then press power.

This will drain all the caps.

Then hold insert on the keyboard, then give it power again and press the power button without the cmos jumper, do the steps above while holding the insert key, will work on the 2nd try at most if it's gonna work during that power up.

One thing to know about the insert key method, it has a better chance of working on a ps/2 keyboard then it does with a usb one, much better chance.

 

Keep trying that too, thaat insert key trick does'nt work very often at all I'm afraid, one in 20 tries probably is the odds.

Oh yeah, also when it does work, it does'nt allways do the trick, that the main bummer.

If the bootblock in the bios can't init correctly, it is'nt gonna boot that way.

It'll light up the floppy drive when it's trying that, that is if the insert key trick worked, but it does'nt mean it's gonna do anything either though other then light up the floppy dirve lol.

 

^^, the fsb jumper, some ram sticks like it on there, other don't when it's being cleared or bootup the 1st time.

My old stick would'nt boot after a clear twice without the fsb jumper on there.

On the other hand, these 2 sticks together 99% of the time won't post with the fsb on there.

 

The remove the battery thing, that only worked for me once.

I did that, plus the trick I said above, no insert key, no fsb jumper to get the bios chip I had baught working, my replacement chip.

It sucked that the 2nd chip I had, that I absolutly needed to get working, would'nt work.

Took me 2 days to get it running again because of the 4 leds prob.

 

Anyways be careful you know, check you cpu for brun marks and make sure the heatsink for the cpu is on there good.

That's all I can say about it, it's a freaky area when you run into the 4led prob and it won't go away.

 

Edit:

One more thing, that power supply of yours.

That might be the real problem I'm afraid, and trying an untested powersupply on a board that may or may not have probs allready is'nt the best idea ^^.

You could fry something doing what I said above with a low end power supply if you try to startup over and over again.

[mufc05]

tryed all that, the mobo will not restart when i put the jumper back on, still not working!

[Poisonsnak]

Sounds like bios corruption to me, do you have a board you can hotflash in?

[mufc05]

the only other board i have is a abit nf7 uguru - can i do it with this?

[red930]

Take off the cmos clear jumper completely, startup the computer

Where did you learn that?

 

Never apply power to a motherboard when the jumper is in the "clear CMOS position".

 

Simply follow the stickies(critical) at the top of the forum to clear CMOS and reset BIOS defaults.

 

It's the only approved method.

[NEOAethyr]

I would have to agree with you on that one, I learned it from my old mobo, an aopen ak77-333.

I would click on the power with the jumper off, it would startup, aand then shutdown quickly, then put the jumper back and it would ensure a cleared cmos everytime.

I had to get a 2nd chip for that one too, and that's the only way I could get it to boot ^^.

 

The dfi, well I had to do quite a bit to get it to post like I stated above.

What originally killed my baord's bios back then?

 

Well I oc'ed the fsb to 270x6, would'nt post.

I reemmber the insert key trick that people were doing and thaught of something else that might get it running, oddly I got it to post at that speed and even boot windows to the login screen were it locked by holding reset in for like 3 secs.

So after I reset after that bad startup, I went into the bios and set it up back to 250fsb, did'nt post.

Which was odd you know, 6/19 bios, was a piece of crap for my old corsair 333 mem, would ramdomly do odd boot stuff.

So I said hell with it, instead of clearing the cmos I'll just do the same hold the reset button trick, never booted again after that.

 

I should of just reset the cmos like normal I know, instead of holding reset for somehting that could be fixed another way, I dn how I mamaged to come up with hold reset for a few secs, just came to me off the top of my head for some reason lmao.

 

In any case I baught my new, pre-flashed bios chip.

Then it would'nt post, same 4-leds of death, I was pretty pissed.

Was 2 mothns I had waited for a working puter again and still this...

I tried for like 4 hrs, nothing.

 

Then the next day I tried again, all day and night, untill the next morning I got it to post.

I kept clearing the cmos in diff combinations, eventually I go tto that method and I kept trying it.

About after maybe 30 times it posted , I'll never hold the reset button in again lmao.

 

Still, that method still works for me as an instant recovery, without even having to turn the power off lol.

But there's other times where I screw my bios over, like a bad romsip I'll try and etc, that's where the 2nd bios chip comes in handy .

 

Oh there was one more prob after it posted, I went to hotflash the 1st chip, and it did'nt take the flash and I had to doit again.

Worked after the 2nd time, sometimes it'll do that still, bad romsip or bpl, I'll have to flash twice in a row.

Recently found out that F10 will back out of awdflash after a flash instead of rebooting, from there I can flash a 2nd time without having to switch over to the other chips again, and etc.

 

[Poisonsnak]

Yep the abit board will work, just be careful, and good luck!

[Jolyman]

I have a question about hot flashing bios chips.

 

Can I (hot) flash an Abit NF2S ver.2.0 bios using my Ultra inf. and the installed Bios Savior? SAFELY :confused:

 

Is the procedure the same as flashing a new version for my DFI board?

ie. .. boot to my bios savior ( with a blank chip installed for the nf2) then switch to the blank chip .. flash it . Then power down the DFI and switch back?

 

Which flashing program would I use to boot with? the one for the NF2? or use the winflash program ( which I've never used)

Will the DFI flashing disk work to start the flash .. using the (NF2) .bin file to write the NF2 bios .. of course.

 

I sure don't want to blow a GOOD Ultra Inf.!!! :eek:

 

The reason I ask is because I aquired a NF2S board with a bad bios chip ( I think .. because it failed when the owner flashed the bios).

I tried to buy a new chip programed but it seems there is a SHORTAGE?? (for some strange reason??) and I have 2 blank spares for my Infinity I have never needed.

 

This would save me sending one of those to be flashed to the NF2S bios.

 

As ALLWAYS ... THANKS

 

I really like my "Rookie " designation under my screen name.. I been active in the DFI forums more than a year and definatly NOT a rookie I guess I need to post more to this forum