eugenius Posted May 30, 2003 Posted May 30, 2003 I'm this close to purchasing the Koolance EXOS, can anyone tell me if I will get some better temps (vs my current SLK-800), I know it will be alot quiter compared to my Thermaltake SmartFan 2. I'm really aimed at the temps though. Thanks guys! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Posted May 30, 2003 Posted May 30, 2003 though i dont suggest exos as a water cooling system, you will probably experiance slightly lower temps (not much). one distinction of lower line water cooling and top of the line fans, perhaps the temps are the same, but the water cooling can take the heat much better than air. so at stock voltages, you wont be able to notice the different, but once you start adding some heat on that thing, the air will get higher while water cooling stays relatively close to the original temps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVE Posted May 30, 2003 Posted May 30, 2003 I would highly recommend the Exos kit. That's what HardOCP.com used on their P4 2.4C CPU. They were able to crank it up to 3.5Ghz with the Exos. I think that's performance right there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEclypse Posted May 30, 2003 Posted May 30, 2003 Im gonna get the WaterChill, i think it performs better than the exos but cant swear to it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Posted May 30, 2003 Posted May 30, 2003 RVE, the actual numbers they overclocked were a 2.8ghz to 3.4, and they were actually reviewing a before-release version, which was obviously better since the price that they payed was much more than the eventual cost of the exos when it was released Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenius Posted May 31, 2003 Posted May 31, 2003 Hey guys thanks for all the replies, I'm deff. going to get it as I'm OC'n alot! Okay, next question, can I mod the EXOS (besides replacing the fans with blu LED fans, I've seen that already), like can I add a better pump? I know its all in that rack-box deal-eo but I'm sure it could be possible to put a better pump, right? Or is that unit never meant to be tampered with? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transattic Posted May 31, 2003 Posted May 31, 2003 I doubt you can even fit a different pump into the exos since the exos' pumps are mini's... i have the non-external koolance pc2-601 which is exactly like exos except it is built into the case which you'd buy. The thing is, the pumps are in the resevoir making it also hard to replace the pumps and forcing in a resevoir into the box. Otherwise if you start laying your goodies on around your case and outside of the exos box... it defeats the purpose of buying the Koolance Exos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVE Posted May 31, 2003 Posted May 31, 2003 Ok instead of putting text, I'm going to put up the image at the HardOCP.com website. You can click here to look at the article yourself. They overclock a P4 2.4C to over 3.5Ghz. Mercury above has the numbers wrong. Look at the pic below the yellow highlight shows the CPU they have, 2.40Ghz. The blue highlight tells the speed they are getting, 3523Mhz. Over a 1Ghz overclock and it was rock solid, they pushed to 3.6 but wasn't 100% stable. Check out the article for details. Remember they are getting these results with a standard Exos kit. They didn't mod it in anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Posted May 31, 2003 Posted May 31, 2003 to THAT article, here is another section they included "To say the CPU was stable here, even with the Koolance Exos water cooling system, would not be totally true. We could load both sides of the HT CPU by running two instances of Prime95 to 100%. It would run through about 8 to 9 tests before one virtual CPU would crash the test but not the other. " however, i was speaking of their review of the exos system, where you can see that they had a stock temp, and an overclocked temperature ([email protected]) here. if you read it, the temperatures were not anything competative, hardOCP mainly praised the system for versatility. cooling performance is pretty simple actually, there is no worry about different settings, its just what cools down to the lowest celcius degree. getting a 2.4 to go to 3.5 (unstabily, i might add) doesnt really mean much, since you could do that, or better with another system. that is why i have such a hard time finding good WC comparisons online, since they usually only give one temps with one kind of cpu with one speed of overclock, and they dont do several systems with the same heat imput overall, the exos is good versatilitywise, but as price and performance goes, it just doesnt keep up with the other systems Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVE Posted June 1, 2003 Posted June 1, 2003 The section you are reading about it being unstable is at the very end when they speak about trying to achieve 3.6GHz. Stability was fine at 3.5Ghz, but they couldn't push to 3.6Ghz and maintain stability. Gaining over an extra 1,000Mhz with the Exos, I would say is good cooling. What air cooling unit can push out an extra gigahert and be stable. Even if you could get an air cooled unit to do that, it would be extremely loud. Just go read the article I linked to in my previous post above and see for yourself. Stop trying to twist numbers around Mercury, I've noticed you like to bash products that you aren't running on your personal rig. Just like you bash any other ram other then your Mushkin, and you bash other water cooling units other than the Innavotek you run. You always say you only buy the best products, but when you try to prove your Mushkin performance, you link to reviews that are over a year old. Ram that was fast a year ago doesn't mean it's the best a year later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenius Posted June 1, 2003 Posted June 1, 2003 Either way they are nice OC's! But it's on a p4 chip, how would the EXOS preform on the amd xp? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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