Ace51 Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 i must have formatted my computer at least 10 times last nite. before i updated the bios to NF2In6191 i keep getting the NHLDRR error (something like that, like boot sector is gone). i kept formatting it and once it worked all the way through and got into windows xp sp2. i updated the lan driver and nf2 driver from he cd, rebooted and BAM, all the data on the 180GB hard drive is gone. Shows that no partition has been created. now i really don't know what i should do now, i'm trying to find software to recover all those data. i was able to reproduce the exact same problem when doing a fresh install of windows xp2 on a 40GB hard drive, once got into windows, updated LAN drivers, rebooted then it won't boot anymore, keep trying to use cdrom to boot or the nvidia LAN. does anyone know any recovery software that i can use to recover my data. i'm pretty much given up on this board now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ace51 Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 i want to add that when i was installed windows xp, the setup DID recognize all 4 partitions on the hard drive and it was only after i got into windows, updated driver and rebooted then i lost all the data showing no partition has been created., Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGone Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 ...you format the hard drive that attaches to the hard drive controller on the motherboard which is in the computer. And when you format a hard drive and have not specified that you had any partitions on the drive then none of us expects any data to be on the hard drive anyway so how could you still expect data to be on the drive? This corrupted data and hard to get booted correctly can be caused by any number of things. First go into Standard CMOS and check to see what 'drive mode' your drives are set to. If the flash to 6/19 was successful they should show drive mode as LBA and not CHS. If the bios flash was 'poor' or you failed to load optimized defaults after the bios flash; then cannot tell what the drive mode may be set to. Beyond the the fact that I am having to try to 'guess' what is wrong as the print does not tell me much, a clearer picture of what you are doing and in the order in which they occurred will make it a great deal easier to try to offer a helpful suggestion to bypass your grief sir. Sincerely, RGone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace51 Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 rgone, please see the post i added to the thread. i did see all the partitions when trying to format the C driver and those partitions do show up in the XP setup process when i choose which drive to have xp installed to. i have set everything to auto already as i have read that CHS mode might appear on some of the thread already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nothing Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by Ace51 i have set everything to auto already as i have read that CHS mode might appear on some of the thread already. I'd suggest setting it to LBA instead of auto. I had mine on auto and it worked fine for a long time... but now it only works when set on LBA. Go figure...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace51 Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 king, i set everything to LBA and formatted the 40GB again, it's giving me the same message, NTLDR is missing. why do i keep on getting this? i'm using final data 2.0 right now to try recover those data on my 160GB hard drive, it's gonna take about 5 hours just to scan one partition. what do i do with the NTLDR error? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nothing Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 Well, I'd probably boot from the windows disk to the recovery console and try 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'. I'm not sure it will help any.... but ya never know. If it doesn't work I'd probably reformat and reinstall one more time. So... you can install XP and reboot to it..... right? Does your problem only start after you upgrade stuff? If it will reboot then NTLDR is there and it must be gettting screwed over by the updates. You may want to try installing SP1... then do the updates.... then install SP2. Maybe there is a conflict there. My problem was that Windows would not reboot to itself. It would start the install and then when it went to reboot to continue the install it couldn't find itself. Hope you get it working. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace51 Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 just formatted aagin an d got the sme thing after i updated the drivers and reboot, not that i don't even get NTLDR error after i update and reboot. it just tries the cdrom, then goto the nvidia bootagent. then tell me it failed press control alt delete. i'm going to try to see if updating driver is the problem tonight. thanks fro all teh help. BTW, i already changed it to LBA as suggested. thanks! am i the only one who's getting all these problems or this board is just not very friendly to new DFI owners until you really tried everything and know exactly how the board would act? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGone Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 :confused: while I was typing that you did post again and I agree with KON that LBA seems to be the best. WD JB's can give problems and do for many. There are so many jumper settings that you 'must' have set right on the hard drive for how it itself is being used in a config. In your config I think the single WD JB drive would be 'jumpered' for single drive "alone" or no other hard drive on the channel. That is if you only have the WD JB 180 in by itself. In trying to sort thru how you were formatting 10 times and hoping to see data and you did not mention partitions> I either missed or you updated signature again to include the fact you are using PC2100 memory. Now do not begin to mis-understand as I know a few super lucky hotdogs with some PC2100 sticks that fly> BUT in general that memory would not be a good choice in the board you have and IF not setup very precisely and you with a great deal of luck> might be screwing the pooch in memory when you load that "huge" group of updates. You say well numbnuts RGone...how in hale do you figure that? Simple. I have gotten the NTLDR missing error plenty of times when I overclocked the memory TOO much and your PC2100 can easily be in the same situation on the board you are using. The difference being that > I could reduce my clock speed of memory and at reboot the error went away because "now" at bootup the memory and cpu were inline with what they could 'take' and the NTLDR was found. It does not dissappear anyway but is unable to perform the function it does when overclocked too high many times. You with PC2100 memory > may well have positioned yourself in the same general type of position with PC2100 when the update requires a bunch of stuff done at once in memory or the update itself has overwritten the memory controller files. One last thing that may not be really clear is that most of us who run the peees out of these boards slipstream all service packs and load the SP at the install of windoors as it makes for a better install in the background. So yes and no to the newer user having to get used to these DFI sisters and learn DFI speak. It does help to know and understand the DFI rocket sisters language ok enough. And like I said, when I saw finally the PC2100 memory> I had red flags go up all over the place. Sincerely, RGone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundx98 Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 I guess I am wondering if you have a 180G HDD, a 40G HDD, or both connected? Western Digitals are extremely fussy about being connected correctly. If there is only one drive in and its a WD, may I suggest removing all jumpers from the rear of the HDD. Do not set to Master with just one drive. There's that 137G dealy too to consider I've managed to dork the board up and get the NTDLR missing after overclocking (well trying to overclock to high and getting repeated failures). Try loading at OPTIMIZED DEFAULTS if you haven't already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace51 Posted October 15, 2004 Posted October 15, 2004 to soundx98 and rgone, i am using the optimized defaults. rgone, you mentioned that pc2100 are bad for this board, is there any specific ram settings that will help "loosen up" the tming on the memory? i'd hate having to change the ram (only reason i'm still getting an nforce2 board is due to not having to upgrade rams or i'd probably have went with athlon 64)., most likely if i need to change ram i'd see if newegg would be willin to swap a different motherboard for me. now when i first booted up the entire computer, the WD is master with a slave 80GB maxtor. after all the data was gone i didn't want to risk losing everything so i simply unplugged it and started to test wtih my 40GB WD to see if windows would actually run stable in the current settings. do you guys think it's the ram or the HD? i can try to et a hold of some kingston rams that my friend have in his system and test it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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