jonspd Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Well sence this is my second post here I guess I will find out just how usefully these forums are with the replies I get to this thread. I seem to be still having issues with my overclock. First of all 3dmark still drop's back to desktop no matter how stable prime95 or memtest is. I have found the the extra mem setting 5 4 6 3 3 4 5 work best for me on my setup. I havn't changed the agp lag timer to much but 192 seem's to make 3dmark the most stable. My setting are 11x 230fsb 2 2 2 2 11 13 15 e f e e 5 4 6 3 3 4 5 agp 1.8 vdd 1.9 vcore 1.75 but =1.87 vcore mod vddim 3.3 apic disabled I can use a 10.5 muilt above 235 or it get's a restart before loding windows want boot into window's. 10x248 will only run prime for about 5 min's before it fail's. I'am currently using the official 619. I would really like to figure out y 3dmark2001 return's to desktop no matter how stable my system is in prime. Do you think raiseing the agp freq to let's say 68 or 69 from 66 will help this issues? I can run my cpu @ about 2.57 with around 1.9 vcore 100% stable but I can run higher then 231 fsb with a 11x muilt without getting 3dmark dropout's. as allways any help would be great and glad to see some of the same faces I see everywhere else/ Jonspd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mikee Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 but I would try dropping the vdd to 1.7 - 1.8 and try just to see if it helps (I would hang/drop out of 3d2k1 at 1.9) May be just me:shake: Good luck and tell us the results of testing said theory? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonspd Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Ok well I tried 1.8 then 1.7 and didn't drop outta 3dmark @ 1.7 so does this mean I need better cooling on my NB? Also I forgot to add I'am using 6 7 6 7 6 7 for my driving and slew strength's. Maybe this will help my 10.5 muilt problem I dont know whats up with that yet but I'am going to try for 10x 248 again and see what kinda resutl's I get with prime. After I test for alittle more where I'am @ right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovetek Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Originally posted by jonspd Ok well I tried 1.8 then 1.7 and didn't drop outta 3dmark @ 1.7 so does this mean I need better cooling on my NB? Also I forgot to add I'am using 6 7 6 7 6 7 for my driving and slew strength's. Maybe this will help my 10.5 muilt problem I dont know whats up with that yet but I'am going to try for 10x 248 again and see what kinda resutl's I get with prime. After I test for alittle more where I'am @ right now. hmmm is that necessarily a bad thing? being able to run high fsb at lower vdd is great in my opinion... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elts_drac Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 if the slew is set the same for each channel you are defeating the purpose of the slew feature. It is a retard function not a speed function. Bt AGP lag do you mean latency? According to the hardcore vid guy increasing Vagp does absolutely nothing to improve performance. you can ask Viperjohn who is the Radeon 9800 record holder in 3dMark about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonspd Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 to groovetek No it's not a bad thing. to elts_drac Yes I'am refering to the latency it's set @ 192 atm I havn't really tried higher agp freq yet but wil do so when I bench as there is no need to run it high for 247 use. So as far as the slew I should set one lower then the other or what? yes all are set to 6 7 6 7 6 7 I have used 4 2 4 2 4 2 but the 67's work better then auto also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAE Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 I don't recommend playing with these settings as they often make this worse... Upping the AGP freq a lil could help ya with 3d stability too That's right. To be able to use 10.5x you very likely have to do the L12 mod. Regards, SAE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonspd Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Well with the 121 bios I can use the 10.5x muilt but not the 10 LOL. I will try the agp freg and see if it help's in 3dmark drop out's but for now it seem's someone help me with that problem already but maybe I can up the agp freq to like 69 and turn the vdd back up some more for higher fsb but I think I need to replace my board's stock cooling as much as I hate to take apart my system look's like I may have to. Tks jonspd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAE Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Cooling helps in most cases Sometimes latencies... and sometimes nothing at all (my sound drops) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonspd Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Well I have yet to lose sound on this board "knock on wood" but I used to all the time on my nf7-s. I guess I will do ahead and steal the NB cooler off my nf7-s thats just folding it's little heart away ATM. thank's for the advice any other help would be great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGone Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 I notice a couple of others have advised to refrain from using 1.9vdd as it is 'known' for making some systems unstable. Just because a 'setting' is 'there' does not make it useable or adviseable. That said> I cannot use over 1.8Vdd until I get up around 2650mhz using 249x10.5 or greater. It just makes 3dmark2k1 unuseable and kicks to the desktop but when I really push it that 1.9vdd seems ok way up there. I do not consider ~2500mhz to be pushing it. My normal day to day volts settings are Vcore 1.95V, AgP 1.8V, Vdd 1.8V and the Memory at 3.2V; in order to run my everyday settings of 246x10.5 on a 2400+mobile processor and using 2x256 Kingston BH-5. Have not noticed the North Bridge doing more than just getting warm>BUT the southbridge will burn the skin off my finger>so I put a 486 HSF combo on the southbridge and now am more easily able to finish 3dmark2k1 in the 253x10.5 range with AGP controller Latency set to 248. I think the truth is that 240FSB is fairly doable on the DFI sisters with good BH-5 in 2x256 size memory. That was the original design of memory sizes for the NF2 now dated chipset and the dated NF2 was for 200FSB. Suddenly everyone wants 2x512 in many cases and that defeats the NF2 chipset pretty soundly if the NF2 chipset is not just near perfect. Nvidia builds them by the way. Once I put 3 sticks in which is how it get to 1gig of RAM> the finesse needed to reach HI FSB is critical. Heat just pours off the chipsets then. Where we all run aground is in seeking 50FSB *more* than the orginal chipset was ever, ever designed for. We see a few get lucky and try it for ourselves and just one glitch in a component arise and we get dumped. Heat has been my biggest enemy so far. That and leaving my once content less than 2600mhz range and 'now' trying for more but doing so with only air cooling. It is tough man just tough. Sincerely, RGone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlobber Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 Originally posted by RGone ... Suddenly everyone wants 2x512 in many cases and that defeats the NF2 chipset pretty soundly if the NF2 chipset is not just near perfect. Nvidia builds them by the way. ... What a quote! :shake: Maybe I see there too much of a deep thought but no poet on this world could have said this better! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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