Bleeder Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 Will DFI be releasing Sempron-aware BIOS'es soon? I understand that AMD has released all the necessary info to mainboard dev's for the Sempron, and already there are Sempron BIOS'es from other manufacturers (Abit, for example). The Sempron core (basically A64 core w/o 64-bit, but keeping superb 32-bit performance) could bring a huge boost to this platform, so I think a lot of us are going to be asking about this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deception`` Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 Actually benchmarks have shown that the sempron's perform worse than an XP 3200+. And in regards to your comment on bioses: let's keep in mind that the 6/19 is under heavy scrutiny and could very well be the next official bios. However, we (DFI supporters) do not need people flaming DFI for the way that the operate....remember this is the whole reason that AG pulled out of amdforums.com and this forum was birthed. So either joke less about Oskar's work or find another forum for your answers. deception`` Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGone Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 my man "deception``", ole bleeder is not up right now on the facts of life for the 'sempron' low end dumplings. Abit is making a new push for the latest NF2 style chipsets which DFI is not going to fool with at all. No NF2-2 in the works at DFI at all. What ABit is doing in going NF2-2 has been questioned for rationality by many in the news already so what ABit does is not proven out yet anyway. I have heard nothing at all about the sempron and UI or LpB at all and it may be sometime before we do hear. Or it could appear out of the blue as it were. My personal purposes and understanding of the newer tech on the horizon has caused me to be sure, I have at least a spare mobile XP-M in hand because they will be faster than any castrated cached sempron in the near future. Now that much I am sure of. So in essence it is very much a wait and see situation and one that is not going to have answer tomorrow. Sincerely, RGone...1ster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deception`` Posted July 9, 2004 Posted July 9, 2004 A good read on wasting money on semprons: http://www.overclockers.com/articles1057/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted July 10, 2004 Posted July 10, 2004 Sorry for my post! (Edited, did not want to start a flame war) My local computer dealer is sold out of lower speed AXP's (I wanted something in the 2500+ to 2600+ range), and they do not carry mobile chips. They said they can't get the lower speed Athlon XP's anymore, but they will be replacing them with Socket A Sempron's sometime around end of July or early August. This is why I am worried about the Sempron BIOS support. If all I can get (locally) for cheap is a Sempron, then I may be sol... EDIT: Ok, I guess it is common knowledge that slower speed Athlon XP's are being replaced with Sempron's. I want to make a purchase locally and do not want to shell out for a 3000+/3200+. Could I be the only one in this situation? Linky: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16876 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavik Posted July 10, 2004 Posted July 10, 2004 why does the sempron require a new BIOS??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Games Posted July 10, 2004 Posted July 10, 2004 Bleeder where do you live? if in USA you can get a mobile just about everywhere online...if in EU then there's a lot of guys here that can tell you where to go slavik: because its a new cpu code and while it retains the same pincount, its a chopped A64 core so a different architecture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted July 10, 2004 Posted July 10, 2004 Angry, I'm in the US and I -would- buy online, but I really have always had a good experience with my local dealer. I get to pick the CPU/stepping I want (and make sure it works), their return policy is very good, and their price is usually within $10 of Newegg (which I guess is one of the best online sites to buy from). Next question is... eventually won't the mobiles also be replaced w/ mobile Sempron's? So then what? I guess it's like Rgone said... it's a wait-and-see situation. I have a feeling that this thread will pop up again if that happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deception`` Posted July 10, 2004 Posted July 10, 2004 Maybe so, but that won't be for a while. Also, newegg is probably the best place to buy parts in the U.S., period. Not to mention that there's no point in having a "hand picked" palamino over a mobile barton that will net higher o/c's at probably the same temps or less. On top of that, one should keep in mind that these mobile processors are OEM products are not meant for casual retail purchase. The point is that you may have to put yourself on a limb (so to speak) to buy an XP-M but if you did a good scout of the internet computing community you'd know that these processors have been a godsend for many as they have kept some of us away from P4C's and A64 systems and renewed much faith in the value of the socket A system. Also, I previously stated that an o/c'd mobile barton will perform better than a sempron so you may want to pick one of these up while they're on the market. We may see some of the mobile 2800+ and 3000+ cpu's currently floating around in laptops, but then again we might not. Stop second guessing what is a very good thing and take the plunge... Not using a mobile barton on these DFI boards is like running the UI with some crucial pc 2100 ram...just doesn't make sense. deception`` Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trodas Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 Exactly Most of the mobile chips can make about 2500-2700Mhz and crazy/lucky geeks made even 2880 and 2950Mhz from them :cool: Supplied with 512k cache and DAMN strong FSB - we got a pretty powerfull system and all the 64bit hype did not interesting us at all - there is no program that could benefit from 64bit yet. And there is a very slim chance we see something that will benefit from the 64bit architecture soon PS. I would like to see DFI finishing the K7 first, before even talking about Semprons... Besides, these are targeted as bugdet CPUs. Is this truly the place for such entusiastic board like the DFI ones are? :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Games Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 Besides, these are targeted as bugdet CPUs. Is this truly the place for such entusiastic board like the DFI ones are? we do have our budget lines (NF2-AL/Ultra-AL, KM400 etc). but RG and I deal generally only with the Infinity/LanParty high-end line. Sempron doesnt sound too high end to me. We'll wait and see what happens though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 The mobiles are targeted at mobile systems... and that didn't seem to matter to folks using them in their desktop boards. Like Angry says, we'll just have to wait and see. Who knows how the Socket A Sempron really performs, even though it's targeted as a budget/value cpu? I know deception says they will perform slower than a Barton, but I haven't seen any performance results at all for the Socket A incarnation of the Sempron. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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