FlyingHamster Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 sooo.. I got my new comp parts a few months ago (new 2600-m, infinity, sp-97, twinmos 43B, etc). I put it all together in hope to get at least 2.5ghz stable, but it seemed no matter what I did, prime would fail. so I switched out ram. I tried mushkin lvl 2 bh-5. still errored. and today I got my 2x256mb KHX pc3200 bh-5. STILL erroring out in prime. its seems no matter what combinations I try I error out in prime. my infinity is a china board. my 2600-m stepping is AQYHA 0346 XPMW (dont remember the rest). Im thinking about doing a couple of things. selling my infinity and trying another one, or getting my TTGI's rails modded. right now, sisoft is reading my rails at: 3.3v @ 3.16, 5v @ 5.05, and 12v @ 12.10. my 3.3v is low, but I dont know whether windows is reading it correctly. I dont have a multimeter to test either. I dont know whether Im just now setting something right in my bios, or whether my board is just crap, or my 3.3v rail is holding me back. Ive tried almost all the bios's except the 4/29 and 5/05 cuz Ive heard bad things about them. are there some wpcredit tweaks, bios tweaks, or anything else I should try? what should I have set in my bios to hit 250x10 (my goal). thnx in advance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGone Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 :confused: 0346 I had one of those in a 2400+mobile and it was a poor overclocker compared to the 0347 week ones. That is first. Secondly, I have seen you all over the sites asking for every shortcut and tip known to man and most of them are not much use when it comes down to overclocking a particular motherboard because each of them is different. You have to sit down and do the homework yourself. Little by little and keep good records of what seems to bring on what. I don't know what bioses you have used nor if you have a bios savior. 12/31/03 and 01/21/04 were my favorites using my KHX3200K2/512 which has no A in the part number and is definitely BH-5. I ran the memory in slots 1 and 3 but some find 2 and 3 better for them. Bios 12/31/03 and bios 01/21/04 were run at 1.95Vcore, 1.8Vagp, 1.8Vdd (chipset) and 3.3Vmem using Expert, Aggressive, Expert 11, 3, 2, 2, Cas2.0, 12, 14, E, E, Fast and CPC on no matter the bios. I had an SLK800 with an 86.4CFM loud@ fan blowing to keep temps in the 45C temp range when pushing it. My normal speed was 245x10.5 and was fairly stable. When you say you 'will' run 250 or bust>you might just bust. There are many components in the rig that can hold you back. My power supply is a Fortron 530Watt with the 3.3V adjustable if you can get the glue loosened without breaking the adjusting pot and it is set to 3.42V. The +5/+12V rail is set to 5.08V and 12.12V. Yes, bringing the +3.3V rail into closer spec did help my stability> I will not say it helped the FSB at all. You also do not say if you have any issue with cold boot=no post or not, but if you do the wire mods help many times to start the boot process off 'better' and then the whole thing runs better. Again I do not know if you have a bios savior to be flashing. I would try the beta 06/19/04 off the official DFI beta site and especially so if you have cold boot issues. Now what will really make you sick is that if I or many others here had that computer in front of us right this minute> 20 minutes later we would have it running or know it would not and a pretty good idea why it would not motor. It is a feel or touch coupled with a precise set of moves that we all tend to make that lets us tune the things out. Oh no, most never speak of this as it is not for public knowledge as it were. We all use a pattern that is precise and ordered and studied out over sometimes years of experience that just allows many to say> up this and this and this in a prescibed order and if that does not work then many times we know almost immediately that it will not go and why. Patterns. Patterns. That is all it is. If you have bios savior to flash safely with then try one of the three bioses that I mentioned and do it with the Kingston if you know it is BH-5. Don't change 'any' setting I gave you but plug them in and see if you get 245x10.5. If you do consider yourself quite fortunate and save your hair because it just might then do the 250x10, but you cannot skimp on voltage and you cannot change just one thing at a time. It is patterns. Patterns. Hope this gets you off and running as it really is telling you more than most want to and is gathered from 5 years of reading about overclocking and nearly 2 years of fooling with NF2 chipsets. Try it you might like it. But you have to be slow, gentle and pattern minded. Editted by RGone...: if you do flash the 06/19/04 you will need to go the sticky out front in the forum at top and get the additional settings in the newly unhid 7 memory timings and plug them into the 7 new places for timings. They are 6, 5, 6, 3, 3, 5 and 6. Those were found with Kingston BH-5. If you do not use them or so close to them>you will not get past 200FSB very likely. Sincerely, RGone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTank Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 '0346' 2600+mobile is one of the better weeks for the AQYHA stepping. 2400+moble and 2600+mobile are not of the same stock, but if they were, the 2600+mobile would still be pick of the litter. It is similar to the IQYHA 0351 and it's the quantity of the 0351 that makes it widely known as a good stepping. The AQYHA 0346, though not so many, consistantly achieved in the 2600mhz range on air and of three friends on water all achieved 2.8G or close to it. I got about 2.77G out of one and have seen many that did around that on water. A Mach 2 got 3.28 out of one. By no means a surety, just merely an observation. I feel with adequate cooling and enough volts to the CPU and then to the ram he will be satisfied with the results. I do not believe his CPU is holding him back. Everything else I heartily agree with. Jes war me if you disemgree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGone Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 :shake: ....Hehehehehehe. Everything else I heartily agree with. Jes war me if you disemgree. No man me don't disargue wit you sum all. I duznut keep up wit ever pcu known to men of clocks of renown. Hehehehe. Hale rally me jus, RGone...:nod: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingHamster Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 ok well I am in fact using the new bios, and I tried the 6, 5, 6, 3, 3, 5 and 6 that u said and it seems to be priming a bit longer than normal.. but still erroring out. what should I set those other 6 things in the bios to? or should I leave them at auto? and should I set 6, 5, 6, 3, 3, 5 and 6 to all bios's or does just the 6/19 like those timings? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperJohn Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Originally posted by FlyingHamster sooo.. I got my new comp parts a few months ago (new 2600-m, infinity, sp-97, twinmos 43B, etc). I put it all together in hope to get at least 2.5ghz stable, but it seemed no matter what I did, prime would fail. so I switched out ram. I tried mushkin lvl 2 bh-5. still errored. and today I got my 2x256mb KHX pc3200 bh-5. STILL erroring out in prime. its seems no matter what combinations I try I error out in prime. my infinity is a china board. my 2600-m stepping is AQYHA 0346 XPMW (dont remember the rest). Im thinking about doing a couple of things. selling my infinity and trying another one, or getting my TTGI's rails modded. right now, sisoft is reading my rails at: 3.3v @ 3.16, 5v @ 5.05, and 12v @ 12.10. my 3.3v is low, but I dont know whether windows is reading it correctly. I dont have a multimeter to test either. I dont know whether Im just now setting something right in my bios, or whether my board is just crap, or my 3.3v rail is holding me back. Ive tried almost all the bios's except the 4/29 and 5/05 cuz Ive heard bad things about them. are there some wpcredit tweaks, bios tweaks, or anything else I should try? what should I have set in my bios to hit 250x10 (my goal). thnx in advance. You do not mention the MB voltages and memory timings you are trying to run. Viper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingHamster Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 VJ, to be honest Ive tried them all lol. thats what is making me mad. :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperJohn Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Originally posted by FlyingHamster VJ, to be honest Ive tried them all lol. thats what is making me mad. :mad: Well back to the basic's then. I doubt your CPU is an issue. Using your Mushy BH5's in the blue slots and the 12/31 beta bios try 11,3,3,2,2 timings, 1.800Vcore, 3.3Vdimm, 1.7Vchipset and 240x10 if those Mushkin's are 2x256 or 230x11 if they are 2x512. It should go through test #8 in Memtest86 and P95 like a hot knife through soft butter. Viper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingHamster Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 well I sold my mushkins and now I have my KHX pc3200 bh-5. I will try that and let u know how it goes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperJohn Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Originally posted by FlyingHamster well I sold my mushkins and now I have my KHX pc3200 bh-5. I will try that and let u know how it goes. As long as they are BH5 the results "should" be the same as the above are pretty safe settings and "should" get you heading in the right direction at least. Viper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingHamster Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 hmm tried that. messed around the with the volts, but still errors out in prime. :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperJohn Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Originally posted by FlyingHamster hmm tried that. messed around the with the volts, but still errors out in prime. :mad: Did you set the memory timings at 11,3,3,2,2 and use the 12/31 bios? Trying to narrow it down to the memory controller in the MB's Northbridge or the CPU that isn't playing nice. Since it's happened with several different sets of memory I doubt it is/was bad sticks. Viper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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