Raife Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Hey everyone Looking to build a new computer (upgrade from a Athlon 64 3000+). Will primarily use the computer for video editing (Studio 11) and gaming (WIC, Crysis, GoW, Starcraft 2, TES IV:Oblivion). Looking to do it right the first time and avoid incremental upgrading (i.e. I want the computer to last me awhile). I have about $4,000 to work with. Here is what I have selected so far: 1 COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1010 (or maybe 1100) 5 SILVERSTONE FN121 120mm Case Fans 1 XFX MBN790IUL9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra Motherboard 1 XFX PVT98UZHF9 GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB 1 Link Depot USB2.0 & Firewire Combo Card 1 SYBA PCI-Express 1394b FireWire Card 1 Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 1 G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 2 Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive (in RAID 0) 1 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (Storage Drive) 1 Logitech G15 2-Tone USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard 1 Logitech G9 Black 5 Buttons Tilt Wheel USB Wired Laser Gaming Mouse 2 SAMSUNG 20X DVD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x keo21 Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) if I were you i would lose the 2 raptors and buy another samsung HDD in raid 0, performance wise would almost be as good as the 2 raptors with more space, a lot less noise and less cost, Are you sure you need vista ultimate? I have a read an article that the 9800gx2 run very hot and had trouble getting the card working in sli ( i presume you will sli with that motherboard), Maybe you could wait for some revision models? Will the power supply be ok for basically what is quad sli in the future, including overclock, and addon cards, (i doubt it)? Edited March 21, 2008 by x keo21 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammin Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) Personally I don't think the 9800GX2 is worth the admission price. A HD3870 X2 is going to be similar for considerably less money. I also see absolutely no point in dropping $500 on DDR3 memory when you can get 4GB of decent DDR2 for about 5 times less than that. Sure DDR3 is nice and all, but not worth the huge price premium at the moment. You've picked some parts that are quite important considering video editing (CPU, fast HDDs and plenty of space). The Raptors you may or may not need, I'm honestly not sure. As was suggested another large SATA2 drive should perform similarly. What are your primary video sources going to be? At that moment that list looks like a lot of extra money for not a huge boost in performance to me. Will the power supply be ok for basically what is quad sli in the future, including overclock, and addon cards, (i doubt it)? It think it should be fine for all of that. Quad SLi included. Edited March 21, 2008 by jammin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Dude2 Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 I would pick up either a 3870X2 or a 8800GTS, and maybe through in another in SLI if you find it struggling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raife Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 With respect to the raptors in Raid - I am trying to seperate the os/program drive(s) from the data drives. I currently have this arrangement and like the setup. Vista Ultimate - I have no idea. Frankly I am lost with the different versions of Vista Video cards are my biggest unknown - I do know I want to go with an Nvidia card as SLI is definately a potential in the future. With respect to the 9800GX2 - not sure. I was origanally going with an 8800GTX in SLI, but the 9800GX2 has the G92 chip (not huge inprovement over old chip, but progress). Have considered a 8800GTS in SLI, but then a future upgrade would equate to 2 new cards rather than adding another 9800GX2 (since you cannot tri-SLI the 8800GTS - currently only the 8800GTX and Ultra). Im have struggled with the DDR3 issue - I understand it is an additional cost, but I am looking for something that won't be obsolete around the corner. In addition, the 780i boards I was considering seem to get spotty reviews/performance. Initial reviews of the 790i seem to be good. Video source is currently camcorder MiniDV - will probably go HD soon. Currently it takes FOREVER to render video to DVD, and I cannot apply any "cleanup" options (color correction, stabilize, etc) in Studio. After 20-30 hours of rendering it crashes. So I am trying to build a machine that will allows me create video and apply corrections/effects as needed. We have our first little one arriveing soon (April 26) and will be shooting lots of video. Little one also drives purchase and build timeline of new rig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x keo21 Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Pointless buying the 3870x2 with that mobo, OP clearly wants to sli....I do agree that 9800gx2 is bad buy right now, should of said tat in my earlier post, Whatever your final build i hope it lasts, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comp Dude2 Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 For the OS you should definatly go with Vista 64bit as the ultimate is just uber expensive for a few features you are unlikely to ever use. Really what you want is to upgrade regulary imo rather than a huge burst, upgrade gfx card, then mobo + cpu + ram then rinse and repeat. Tbh for this build it looks like you have just gone for the most expensive option in each area For all your video editing a quad is a great choice however that QX9650 is hella expensive and for just over half the price you can have the next one down, clocked at 2.83Ghz, the multi isnt unlocked but with the rock solid motherboards you are looking at you should get the same overclocking performance out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raife Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Which processor are you referencing at 2.83? The Q6600 is 2.4, the Q(X)6700 is 2.66, and the QX6850 is 3.0. Are there other Intel quads that are not listed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKillSteal Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 He's talking about intel's Q9550. It's 170MHz(basically negligible) slower than the QX9650 that you picked out and they generally go for $560-600 depending on the where you look. Tracking one down is gonna be tough, though. They're out of stock, backordered or slapped with an unknown ETA date everywhere I've seen them for sale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raife Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 I found the Q9550 listed at only 1 site on Pricewatch.com - has the chip been released? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xly15 Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Ya the chip has been released. The chip was just released this month. I would go for it. It's cheaper and almost as fast as the QX9650 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xly15 Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 i found the q9300 on newegg. $300 clocked at 2.5 ghz that would be the perfect price for me if i had the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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