Hienrich Jager Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Howdies all. It has been a while since I last posted here, and just about as long as I have been in the computer building scene. But now that I am finishing college I am wanting a new computer. I did some searching on these fourms (cause we all know that OCC is the best place) and got a pretty good idea how far the computer industry has advanced in the 4 years since I last built a machine. So far my parts list consists of: Intel C2D E6850 $279.99 BFG 8800GTX 768MB $529.99 DFI LP P35 T2R LGA 775 $284.99 G.SKILL 2GB DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $144.99 Total: ~1240 USD I know these parts are a little expensive, but I want to do like I did this last time and build a computer that I will not have to upgrade for another 4(ish) years. Plus I can us this as a server/folding rig when I am ready to upgrade again. I will be using all of my current parts for all of the extraneous, so that will cut down the costs quite a bit. Jager P.S.: I guess Ill be using the stock HSF, unless you all recommend different. I will not be oc'ing this beast for a bit. I think it will be good enough for a few months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verran Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 That's a really solid build. The only somewhat questionable thing for me is the board. It may be a bit overkill, but if you're comfortable with spending that much it'll be awesome. Also, I'd personally go with an eVGA video card. I don't have anything against BFG, but lately eVGA is the "new hotness". People seem to have nothing but good things to say about their warranties. Oh, also (and I can't believe I'm saying this), but if you plan to make this thing last for several years, you may want to consider getting a quad (Q6600). It's roughly the same price. Right now, the E6850 is the better choice, since it's faster and hardly anything uses quads yet. But in the long run (a few years), I think you'll see the quad-core chips start to shine. Honestly, you can't really go wrong with either one, but it's something you might want to consider. What do you plan to power it with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_cow Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 get a quad core for the same price. i'm sure in 4 years every app its going to be using muti core. and your telling me your not going to upgrade your video card in 4 years? get a 8800gts and than in a year or 2 get the next thing (9800). i can see switch cpus out is a pain and no one wants to do it. ram has its issues somtimes but a video card all you have to do it pull it out and put a new one it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayMeow Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Though I'd recommend EVGA as well, BFG is no slouch. They definitely honor their lifetime warranty without question. I do agree the mobo is overkill; that was the first thing I noticed. You can get a very solid board for half the price. EDIT: yeah, personally I chose the Q6000 over the E6850, and I'd suggest the same if you want to gain the most life out of this build. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hienrich Jager Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 I plan on powering it with a fairly new Enermax 600W, I bought it like a year ago. When I get back from class ill crack open the case and get a model number. I can't find it on newegg right this sec. This "should" be enough power, but I am not sure. I also run 7 hd's and a heck ton of fans. Why quad core exactly? *views this as the new BTX craze* I really don't see how this will help me. Admittedly I multi-task like a fiend, but the gamer server i run and the apps i use mainly are not about to be re-coded for multi-procs. Jager Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verran Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 I plan on powering it with a fairly new Enermax 600W, I bought it like a year ago. When I get back from class ill crack open the case and get a model number. I can't find it on newegg right this sec. This "should" be enough power, but I am not sure. I also run 7 hd's and a heck ton of fans. A solid 600W should handle that setup easily (assuming you don't have like 10 HDDs or something ). Why quad core exactly? *views this as the new BTX craze* I really don't see how this will help me. Admittedly I multi-task like a fiend, but the gamer server i run and the apps i use mainly are not about to be re-coded for multi-procs. That's a really good question. Like I said, right now, the Q6600 is the lesser performing chip. There are very few games that will use even two cores, let alone four. So really, all you're doing (for the moment) is buying a slower chip, since the quad clocks lower. However, there are several games in the works that will put four cores to use. Over the next year or so, you'll see a good number of games hit the market that should perform better on four cores than two. Over two to three years, I think you'll see that most (if not all) new games will start taking advantage of quads. So really, it's a question of making a small sacrifice now for a big gain later. The way I look at it right now is this: If you're the type that upgrades every year or less, then the quad is a waste. It performs anywhere from evenly to 20% lower than an E6850. So for people like that, I'd say get the E6850 and wait out the quad situation. BUT, if you're looking to get more than two years out of the build, I think it would really be worth it to pick up the quad. In that time span, I think you'll see a lot of games that really shine on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hienrich Jager Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Interesting. Actually I am sort of meandering away from gaming. I used to up and bothered about every little game coming out, but recently I have been gravitating more towards the server/hosting/data processing side of things. With the 4 cores does that mean that I would be able to assign different programs to different cores? Like have a game server dedicated to one of the cores and folding on another with the last 2 for gaming? Or are these just do'all's which all compete for the same process? Also you mentioned another mobo. Do you have a sugestiong for me to base my new search off of when i get back from class? *leaves now* Jager P.S.: Thanks for all your help so far everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verran Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Interesting. Actually I am sort of meandering away from gaming. I used to up and bothered about every little game coming out, but recently I have been gravitating more towards the server/hosting/data processing side of things. With the 4 cores does that mean that I would be able to assign different programs to different cores? Like have a game server dedicated to one of the cores and folding on another with the last 2 for gaming? Or are these just do'all's which all compete for the same process? Well, I don't know first hand, but a lot of the early quad-core demos were essentially exactly what you just said. They'd have four cpu-intensive processes running all at once on a single machine. The important thing is to understand the true meaning of "multitasking". A lot of people say they "multitask", but all they're really doing is running a game with AIM and firefox in the background. That's not really a need for two more cores, you know? But if you've got several cpu-heavy tasks, then it becomes a lot more beneficial. Also you mentioned another mobo. Do you have a sugestiong for me to base my new search off of when i get back from class? *leaves now* Well, if you're looking at the P35 chipset, something like the Gigabyte P35-DS3R for about half the price. The main sacrifice is that you'll lose some of the very high-end OC functions, and you'll lose the ability to run two cards in crossfire setup. But since you're getting an nVidia card anyways, crossfire does you no good. So really, you'll probably never know the difference between this Gigabyte and the DFI, except the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayMeow Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Multi-threading happens in a number of ways depending on the programs used. Regardless, you can manually assign certain tasks to specific cores, so yes, you'd be able to do what you said and have cores "dedicated" to specific things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hienrich Jager Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Cool. Thanks for the explanations you two. I did some research based off of the link that Verran provided and I think I have found a replacement board that will suit my needs. (I would have gone with yours Verran, but it isn't SLI capable.{waaaay future upgrade}) What do you think about this board? Any experience? Heard anything good/bad? EVGA Board $158.99 Jager Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verran Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 (I would have gone with yours Verran, but it isn't SLI capable.{waaaay future upgrade}) Lol. Yeah, but neither did the one you initially picked out, that's why I figured you didn't need SLi. What do you think about this board? Any experience? Heard anything good/bad? EVGA Board $158.99 The eVGA 680i SLi boards are VERY popular. However, there's about a million variations and I don't know enough about them, so I'll defer that to others around here who do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hienrich Jager Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 @Verran. Lol i feel like an idiot now. Aye I was shooting for SLI in like another 3 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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