IVIYTH0S Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 (edited) ok the specs are as follows Motherboard: Asus P5W DH Deluxe Processor: E6600 Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz Ram: 4x1GB Super Talent "T800UX2GC4" (Said to be able to run 4-4-3-8 timings at 800mhz/2.2v, which it does) Videocard: BFG Geforce 8800GTX Harddrive: Raptor X 150gb PSU:PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W i want to max out my system but all i have been able to get stable is 3.06ghz on the cpu with the Ram running at 850mhz (2.25v, still 4-4-3-8) but i want to get my processor higher is there anything that can be done, i was debating loosening the timings a tad so that the processor could go up a little bit but i bought this ram for these timings so i dont know what to do, i used to runt he computer at 3.24 when i only had 2 gigs of my old corsair ram but this new ram threw a whole new twist on things. i would even be happy to get the system running at 3.24 again (which means the ram would be at 900mhz) but with the timings so much lower than my old corsair ram (4-4-4-12) i cant go much higher than 850mhz if dont make any sense, its because im fairly new at this....but thanks to anyone willing to lend a hand Edited August 11, 2007 by IVIYTH0S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
airman Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 well i'll tell you what...benchmark you computer now with your current settings. then - loosen the timings and overclock as far as you can, then bench it. see what that gives and then you'll have the decision in front of you. what is the ram rated for? 850mhz at those timings? if that's the case and you're tryin to go over 850 then i wouldn't be disappointed...well i may be a little. the one downside of running that many sticks of memory is the fact that there's a greater chance of having a bad stick which may be holding you back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVIYTH0S Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 (edited) should i test 2 gigs at a time? and how loose should i put the timings? as for the ram, its rated for 4-4-3-8 at 800mhz not 850 but i cant get the ram to 800mhz without lowering the processor to 2.88ghz (which i dont want) or 3.6 ghz (which i'd love but cant get to even boot to windows) Edited August 11, 2007 by IVIYTH0S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeble Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I think 4GB of RAM is worthless for all but a few select situations. If you don't need it, stick with 2x1GB. You'll probably have to increase the voltage to your RAM and CPU and loosen the timings on your RAM. Even now, most mobos don't handle 4 sticks of RAM very well, so that's partially why you can't OC as high. Set your RAM divider/multi to 1:1 and increase your vCore to 1.4-1.5V. Increase your chipset voltage too. That should take you up to 3.4-3.6GHz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVIYTH0S Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 on two sticks or four, because i just got these 4 gigs so i cant get rid of them ( i sold the old corsair ram) so i need to get something stable with 4 sticks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKillSteal Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 on two sticks or four, because i just got these 4 gigs so i cant get rid of them ( i sold the old corsair ram) so i need to get something stable with 4 sticks Or you can sell two of the sticks and make a profit. Having 4 gigs of ram is nice but nothing really uses that much except a few apps like Bleeble said. Plus with using 4 sticks you could potentially be limiting yourself to a 2T command rate which would provide a pretty significant decrease in performance. It's also easier to OC two sticks versus 4 because it's easier to find out which stick is holding you back. In your case having 4 sticks is actually advantageous because now you can go and OC all 4(individually or in pairs of two) to find out what they can do and then pick your best two from there and use them in your system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeble Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 (edited) There's nothing wrong with 4GB, it just isn't necessary, whether it's 2x2GB or 4x1GB. I was only saying that you might have better luck OCing with two sticks instead of four. I'm not saying to toss the other two in the garbage. If you find more succes with 2GB, you could always sell the other ones on ebay or here at OCC. I'm sure you'd find a buyer. As airman said, one reason it's harder to OC with four sticks of RAM is because there's a greater chance that an individual stick can't OC well. Bumping up your chipset voltage a bit might help, just watch your temps. EDIT: The difference between 1T and 2T on Intel chipsets isn't as significant as AMD was/is. Even then, the real world (read: NOT benchmark) difference was only a couple percent. Regardless, testing out your RAM and picking the best two sticks is what I'd suggest. Edited August 11, 2007 by Bleeble Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVIYTH0S Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 so its not my motherboard holding me back?, even with my two gigs of corsair i still was never able to reach 3.6 stable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeble Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 so its not my motherboard holding me back?, even with my two gigs of corsair i still was never able to reach 3.6 stable It could be the mobo, RAM, or CPU. Some people can't get over 3.4GHz with their E6600s, others pass 4GHz. If your RAM is rated at DDR2-800, that's as far as it's guaranteed to run (even if everyone else with that RAM can OC the heck out of it). A dodgy mobo could be the problem too. My E6600 used to run at 3.6GHz with less than 1.45V; now I get random reboots, even with higher voltages. I never see any errors with Orthos or SuperPi, just reboots. I'm fairly certain my DS3 is to blame. So, in summary, it could be anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVIYTH0S Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 it just feels like its the motherboard....well i got windows to run with 3.24ghz i loosened the timings to 4-4-4-12 like my old corsair (but now the rams at 900mhz instead of 850) and but when i run orthos i get insane temperatures from coretemp saying 71 degrees! idk what to do, i guess let orthos run for now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeble Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Temps over 65C can kill your CPU! Don't run it that high! Are you using the stock cooler? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotdamojo06 Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 yeah Im having troubles getting past 3424MHz (428 * 8) witha 1711MHz FSB and the ram is on a 1:1 divider. Its stable, I just cant get any higher with the clock speed, a little annoying, but I will keep working on it. I guess if you wanted to try it, try my 428 * 8 and see if it works, whats the worst that can happen? OH yeah, Im running stock volts too...so dont change them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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