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#25 LoArmistead

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 07:58 PM

A great man once wrote, "without God anything is possible." Take from it what you wish.

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 08:03 PM

For example, advancement of humanity.
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 08:54 PM

I pose the following: Why do we need to discuss origins in school? If you want to talk about how cells work, for example, does is mater where it came from?

Come to think of it I don't remember eighter theory being presented in science class.
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 07:50 PM

edit:  arguing in political threads is pointless.  removing this post 'cause it don't matter to anyone.  OCC is a computing forum, this post's OT, so goodbye.
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What? if you thought it was dumb to argue in the first place why did u even post?

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 08:11 PM

there are two major differences between evolution and creationism

evo. -- it can be proven, traced, tested, makes logical sense..
there is
gradualism and punctuated equilibrium..

Creationism is based on faith and something non apriori.. or not self evident.. you cant test religious beliefs, you cant test a theory of things poofing out of noting..
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 08:29 PM

there are two major differences between evolution and creationism

evo. -- it can be proven, traced, tested, makes logical sense..
there is
gradualism and punctuated equilibrium..

Creationism is based on faith and something non apriori.. or not self evident..  you cant test religious beliefs, you cant test a theory of things poofing out of noting..

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There are just as many flaws in the theory of evolution as there are in the theory of creationism. Neither can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Right now, the consensus among scientists is "We don't know"

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 08:33 PM

Proof of evolution? Traced? Tested?

Dont count on it....

Java Man was the skull of a gibbon
Nebraska Man was the tooth of a pig and
the Pitdown Man was a low down sham
They built that man form an orangutang
Ramapithics wasn't complete he's a fragment of jaw and a couple of teeth
additional skeletons show us today that he isn't our relative- only an ape
Australapithicus alias Lucy the fossil of this was just vague and confusing
the wonderful knee bone they're proud to possess
was 200 feet deeper- a mile from the rest
Neanderthal Man was prob'ly deficient
in Vitamin D of it might've been rickets
but he had religion and musical instruments
fire and tools and from you he's no different


Yes I understand that this is not quite what they teach as evolution anymore, at least here, and they call the Peppered moth proof, well...it's still a moth, just a different color.

Big bang? Whatever happened to the laws of thermodynamics?


Teaching evolution, meh, whatever, that's not gonna change, but it is not fact, it's a theory (and if it were a cheese, it would be Swiss cheese, stinky and filled with holes), and the creationism that they aim to teach is basically just mentioning that there could have been a "higher power" it's actually quite vague.
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 08:47 PM

Big bang? Whatever happened to the laws of thermodynamics?

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I did a report on evolution vs. creationism. The laws of thermodynamics are pretty interesting and really explain alot. I'm kinda rusty on it now... I'll have to read back up on it.
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 11:50 PM

prolly replace it with,

"edit Pointless"

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Edited by cybergrunt69, 29 September 2005 - 07:45 AM.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 05:43 AM

prolly replace it with,

"edit Pointless"


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Posted 29 September 2005 - 05:50 AM

Ban all religion. That would solve alot of problems, take away some wars and free up some minds.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 06:59 AM

I dont see what the big deal is. The theory of evolution takes what, two days to cover and review? Creationism, if given the same amount of time, would hardly create a problem. The teachers arent telling the kids what to believe, they are just discussing published theories. And as long as they arent saying one is absolute truth, or getting into creationism at such a level as to cover any one belief system, I dont have a problem with it...