Liquidmetal...

[Puck]

Dude, that's a load of crap.

The only metal (including transition elements) that is liquid at these temperatures is mercury (Hg sub2). All of the mercury amalgamates at temperatures around STP are slightly malleable solids or mildly amorphous.

Technically, this company can call their cooling product whatever they want, even if it is not a metal. The liquid may actually be a solution that is more viscous than water, containing some sort of chemical with water as a solvent, but not actually a metal.

 

I know I made all of this sound complicated, but that's because it is. If they are saying that it is non-toxic, then chances are, the chemical is NOT a metal, and is NOT mercury or some other amalgamate.

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Its not STP. There is a higher then 1 atmosphere of pressure in there, and CPU temps will allow them to use an allow with higher then standard temperature, but still much lower then normal metals. A nontoxic metal with the specs they propose is very possible .

**edit** Markie beat me to it **edit**

[markiemrboo]

Ditto on that. Heavy Metal, on the other hand, impresses me greatly.

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I actually came here to quote r_targets post lol. Spinal Tap!

[MasterRex862]

The "Liquid" in "Liquid Metal" probably isnt a full metal; most likely a compound or a trans. metal. It may not even be a metal...

[noseeme]

How about that?

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I did consider galinstan as a possible solution for the metal in this cooler, but then I realized that galinstan has some major shortcomings that could render it unfit for this type of environment.

In a high flow environment, with rapidly fluctuating temperatures, galinstan would likely have some problems. Galinstan is a very interesting substance in that it sticks to and absorbs into many solid surfaces. In order to combat this trait, gallium oxide is applied to the surface of the solid in which galinstan would otherwise stick to. A Teflon-like surface is created that keeps the galinstan from sticking. In a somewhat sedentary liquid environment, the gallium oxide is likely to remain attached to the solid, and repel the galinstan.

In the environment inside of this video card cooler, the galinstan would be flowing through the tubes constantly, and be very likely to eventually wear away at the lining of the very delicate gallium oxide. Inside of the tubes, if a surface for the galinstan to stick to was created, the tube could possibly begin to clot, like lipids attaching to each other inside of a capillary in the human body. The clot could prove to be catastrophic, and if an insufficient amount of galinstan was flowing, less heat would be able to be removed from the die of the GPU, and effectively, cause a meltdown, and damage the entire video card.

[Newport]

I did consider galinstan as a possible solution for the metal in this cooler, but then I realized that galinstan has some major shortcomings that could render it unfit for this type of environment.

In a high flow environment, with rapidly fluctuating temperatures, galinstan would likely have some problems. Galinstan is a very interesting substance in that it sticks to and absorbs into many solid surfaces. In order to combat this trait, gallium oxide is applied to the surface of the solid in which galinstan would otherwise stick to. A Teflon-like surface is created that keeps the galinstan from sticking. In a somewhat sedentary liquid environment, the gallium oxide is likely to remain attached to the solid, and repel the galinstan.

In the environment inside of this video card cooler, the galinstan would be flowing through the tubes constantly, and be very likely to eventually wear away at the lining of the very delicate gallium oxide. Inside of the tubes, if a surface for the galinstan to stick to was created, the tube could possibly begin to clot, like lipids attaching to each other inside of a capillary in the human body. The clot could prove to be catastrophic, and if an insufficient amount of galinstan was flowing, less heat would be able to be removed from the die of the GPU, and effectively, cause a meltdown, and damage the entire video card.

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Who are you???? Are you god? lol Anyway, i think that the whole liquid metal cooling thing is worthless. If it truly is as complicated to make such a contraption, can you think of how expensive the setup would be? You would be better off getting a liquid nitrogen setup.... At least then you know it will be cool....

[noseeme]

Who are you???? Are you god? lol      Anyway, i think that the whole liquid metal cooling thing is worthless. If it truly is as complicated to make such a contraption, can you think of how expensive the setup would be? You would be better off getting a liquid nitrogen setup.... At least then you know it will be cool....

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How do I know all of this? Well... Let's just say not all overclockers are what some people refer to as "stupid gamers."

I honestly do not know how much this sort of setup will cost, but it seems to contain a somewhat simple radiator somewhere in the liquid circuit.

I'm still trying to figure out exactly what is pumping through the veins of this new Saphire card, so that I could possibly pump it through my system.

De-ionized/distilled water + convection accelerating additives is just not cutting it anymore...

[slayer2cool]

I did consider galinstan as a possible solution for the metal in this cooler, but then I realized that galinstan has some major shortcomings that could render it unfit for this type of environment.

In a high flow environment, with rapidly fluctuating temperatures, galinstan would likely have some problems. Galinstan is a very interesting substance in that it sticks to and absorbs into many solid surfaces. In order to combat this trait, gallium oxide is applied to the surface of the solid in which galinstan would otherwise stick to. A Teflon-like surface is created that keeps the galinstan from sticking. In a somewhat sedentary liquid environment, the gallium oxide is likely to remain attached to the solid, and repel the galinstan.

In the environment inside of this video card cooler, the galinstan would be flowing through the tubes constantly, and be very likely to eventually wear away at the lining of the very delicate gallium oxide. Inside of the tubes, if a surface for the galinstan to stick to was created, the tube could possibly begin to clot, like lipids attaching to each other inside of a capillary in the human body. The clot could prove to be catastrophic, and if an insufficient amount of galinstan was flowing, less heat would be able to be removed from the die of the GPU, and effectively, cause a meltdown, and damage the entire video card.

 

the dood's right...galinstan unlike mercury tend to wet and stick to surfaces.. but still a possibility.. lol but i think i still stick to watercooling..want near ambient temps for cpu? use a water bong or sump cooler instead of a radiator

[contra33]

i used to drink mercury as a kid and i turned out fine B:)

Edited May 27, 2005 by contra33

[BionicSniper]

well fine all of you geeks can stick to your air and water cooling systems and this geek will go to liquid metal.

 

Im gona email my uncle about this and ask about some different substances that could do this. (he is a phyisyst at fermilab in illinois)

 

http://www.fnal.gov/

[Nerm]

i used to drink mercury as a kid  and i turned out fine B:)

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lol, did it have kind of a sweet taste to it? haha

[Puck]

well fine all of you geeks can stick to your air and water cooling systems and this geek will go to liquid metal.

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Me too. I bet it will be cheaper then water cooling(its not complicated, we just dont know the materials yet ), and it cools even better. Kinda still counts as air cooling too since its basically advanced heatpipes that flow in a circuit instead of just up/down . Sounds like a great alternative to WC to me.

 

**edit** I just read in a couple different places that its a gallium alloy, probably about 60%. **edit**

[MasterRex862]

I did consider galinstan as a possible solution for the metal in this cooler, but then I realized that galinstan has some major shortcomings that could render it unfit for this type of environment.

In a high flow environment, with rapidly fluctuating temperatures, galinstan would likely have some problems. Galinstan is a very interesting substance in that it sticks to and absorbs into many solid surfaces. In order to combat this trait, gallium oxide is applied to the surface of the solid in which galinstan would otherwise stick to. A Teflon-like surface is created that keeps the galinstan from sticking. In a somewhat sedentary liquid environment, the gallium oxide is likely to remain attached to the solid, and repel the galinstan.

In the environment inside of this video card cooler, the galinstan would be flowing through the tubes constantly, and be very likely to eventually wear away at the lining of the very delicate gallium oxide. Inside of the tubes, if a surface for the galinstan to stick to was created, the tube could possibly begin to clot, like lipids attaching to each other inside of a capillary in the human body. The clot could prove to be catastrophic, and if an insufficient amount of galinstan was flowing, less heat would be able to be removed from the die of the GPU, and effectively, cause a meltdown, and damage the entire video card.

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Teflon Tubing, anyone?