Which 754 Upgrade From 64/3000+?

[robertomas]

I had a problem with a noisy and fried athlon 64/3000+.It's history. Need new processor this week for system: DFI Lan Party Ut mobo, 1 gig Corsair xl Platinum, barracuda 160 SATA,xp home,ultra 400 psu,dragon,sony,plextor opticals.5700 gassed vid card

 

I would appreciate commentary on 3200,3400,? as an upgrade,since i don't have the desire or funds to go socket 939 at this time,and would prefer to spend any left-over money on a copy of xp-pro......Is the 3700 in 754 format worth the money?

 

I write stories,do music downloads/sending,watch vids,etc.some normal surfing(is there such a thing?)

 

The 3400/64 is maybe 45-50 bucks more than the 3200/64.....worth it? I'd welcome some advice.......I have a decent cooler recently purchased.better than stock.

 

THANKS>>LOOKING FORWARD!!!!!!

[The_Goonie]

3200 is all you'll need man.

[ir_cow]

sorry to hijack this, but when you switch cpu's do you need to reinstall xp, or does xp not care what cpu its using.

[Puck]

good question..I read on here somewhere once that someone changed cpu and didnt have to reformat...BUt i think it depends..Personally i would reformat..

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As long as its the same type of cpu, i.e. single core to single core, you dont need to do anything...as long as the board doesnt need a new bios for the other chip

[MasterRex862]

sorry to hijack this, but when you switch cpu's do you need to reinstall xp

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No.

[thavarin]

As long as its the same type of cpu, i.e. single core to single core, you dont need to do anything...as long as the board doesnt need a new bios for the other chip

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yup you dont, my friends computer i built he fried the processor 3200 amd 64 754 and replaced with with a3400 runs fine without a format. to me honestly it doesnt make a diff my comp still owns his and i have a 3200 754. i say go 3200 and OC that shiznit. good luck, or with the prices of 939 low now that can be an option but your prob like me dont want to spend the extra cash on another Mobo

Edited May 23, 2005 by thavarin

[guzzidom]

Go careful with the 754 3400, some of them come in 2200mhz /1mb l2 cache Clawhammer guise as well as the later 2400mhz /512kb l2 cache Newcastle, though theres not a lot in performance really (I think the extre cache is useful in video editing etc whilst the extra mhz of the Newky gives a slight edge in games), shoulda bought my Mobo then you wouldn't be having this problem LOL (braces himself for usual flaming from DFI/MSI owners)

[crash]

sorry to hijack this, but when you switch cpu's do you need to reinstall xp, or does xp not care what cpu its using.

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Man it really bugs me when people got to the "you have to reformat" right away. Changing hardware rarely requires reformatting your HD. You can simply run the windows XP intstallation and instead of installing a fresh windows XP just select "repair a windows XP installation." Not to be confused with the recovery console that is two screens previous.

 

As for the original question, a 3000+ will be sufficient for you. If you feel like you really need the extra speed then go for the 3200, I wouldn't bother with the 3400 unless you will be doing some serious gaming/editing.

[Guest Raven65]

Anytime you make hardware changes especially the cpu you should always reformat. Just a rule of thumb. not reformatting with any windows os is not a good idea, when changing hardware.

[robertomas]

Thank you all, as i get more valuable stuff here daily! i just thought i'd mention that the Buffalo Stix memory had been highly recommeneded to me by the head tech guy at DFI(an AMERICAN!)....He also said that,although i owned DFI 754 board,,,,since i do stories,text,music and need speed as well as brawn from my proc....welll,intel large number or 3400-3700 would be best 'cause of higher cache and speed.Ok,now i'm getting some extra funds and could go 939 and whatever processor,but am very wary of noticeable diff's with text,music,surf,content creation.......Video being important,yes,but upgrade in the card alone will make a big diff in my rig........go figure.....If the 3400/754 wont give me that much of an upgrade blast,why buy it;furthermore,who needs to spend $340 on the 3700 to find it phased out of production soon.....

 

HMMMM! I will be uploading a boatload of recorded tunes,and speed will be of the utmost importance.I couldnt clock the 3000/64 well at all.went to friend"s(SHHHH!)

3.2 intel rig with raid O sata's and nearly lost fecal soilidity over the machine"s deftness, and speed. That thing rates up there with my tooled-out '86 Stang GT..A rice-burner eatin' mother.....so where we at? 939 ,other than DFI board,say 3200?Or what say you all? Thanks tons so far........Roberto

[oralpain]

(I think the extre cache is useful in video editing etc whilst the extra mhz of the Newky gives a slight edge in games)

 

My experience is the exact opposite. Encoding likes Mhz, games get better minimum fps with more cache. The difference is useually pritty small though.

 

Why does it matter if a chip is going to be phased out of production soon? You would still have the chip and it would still work.

 

Changing the CPU has absolutly NOTHING to do with the OS. It won't effect a dang thing, there is ZERO reason to reformat after changing the CPU. The only exception would be if you go from dual core to single core or vice versa.

 

The only piece of hardware that often requires a reformat, when replaced with a different model, is the motherboard.

 

As for the advice the DFI tech gave you, obviously the higher modle processors are "best". This does not mean that they are worth it, or that the difference is really significant.

 

What exactly will you be doing with this? What exactly did you mean when you said "uploading". If you can be more specific we can gice you better advice as to what upgrade would be most worth while.

[Kash]

As you can see in my sig, I have the same mobo as you, along with a 3200+ under an XP-90. It personally gives me great performance with a very modest overclock. I haven't bothered to go any higher mainly because I don't have the time and when I do, I'd rather spend it doing something other than tinkering with my BIOS and benching all day.

 

So if you really don't want to spend the extra money to get a 939 board and processor, I would highly suggest the 3200+. I do all the same things as you (uploading dozens of gigs a day, encoding music at good speeds, playing games with good framerates and high quality, watching movies, listening to music, and surfing the net) without any problems or complaints about programs running slow. I am honestly content with my processor speed and the only thing I might need to upgrade within a few months would be my video card. Other than that, I'm on a STORAGE frenzy (must....get....to.....a.....terabyte.....)