3700+ In S939?

[kendellrt]

Looks like there will be a Venice version of the 3700+.

 

The 4000+ and the 3700+ also have 1MB of L2 cache!

 

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/m...egory_Code=NA_2

[BabyBalrog]

That would follow AMD's tradidtion of gogin from 512 to 1 Mb to add 200 points, the better memory controller and SSE3 will help two, probaby clocks teh same as the 3500, 2.2Ghz..

[CrackHead]

Yea I noticed that too and got to wondering, would it be better to get the 3700+ Venice Core becuase of the 1MB L2 Cache, or the 3800+ Venice Core becuase of the Clock Frequency of 2200MHz ?

[r_target]

Man those 3700='s are looking shweeeet. It almost seems to good to be true, getting a fat cache at those prices. I hope they don't prove to be crummy OCers.

[kendellrt]

The 3800+ should clock higher than 2200, more like 2400.

 

EDIT: I just checked it out. They both are at 2.4GHz, but the 3700+ only has a HTT bus of 1600, while the 3800+ has 2000 like the winchesters. The 3700+ has 1MB of L2, and the 3800+ has 512k.

[tbone2sk]

A few rules with these new chips.

If it has a 1mb cache is is a san diego core. They are going to overclock just like a venice, but they have a 1 mb cache.

The San Diegos will be 200mhz slower than a venice in the same class. Take a 3500+, they make san diego's and venice's of this chip. The venice is 2200, and the san diego is 2000. They are posed to preform the same, even though one is 200mhz slower.

[kendellrt]

Good info tbone!

[confuzzedintelguy]

OK ima clear this up because these things have bin poping up every where so im gana say it once and only once

3000+ Venice 512K L2 Cache 1.8GHz 2000MHz HTT

3200+ Venice 512K L2 Cache 2.0GHz 2000MHz HTT

3500+ Venice 512K L2 Cache 2.2GHz 2000MHz HTT

3500+ San Diego 512K L2 Cache 2.2GHz 2000MHz HTT

3700+ San Diego 1MB L2 Cache 2.2GHz 2000MHz HTT

3800+ Venice 512K L2 Cache 2.4GHz 2000MHz HTT

4000+ San Diego 1MB L2 Cache 2.4GHz 2000MHz HTT

FX-55 San Diego 1MB L2 Cache 2.6GHz 2000MHz HTT UNLOCKED MULTI

now the 3500 San Diego is basicly a 3700+ with half the cach either failed or locked they did this other then waste the chips which makes since to me

 

so here is the list of 3500+'s

 

3500+ 512K L2 Cache 2.2GHz Newcastle 130nm

3500+ 512K L2 Cache 2.2GHz Clawhammer 130nm

3500+ 512K L2 Cache 2.2GHz Winchester 90nm

3500+ 512K L2 Cache 2.2GHz Venice 90nm

3500+ 512K L2 Cache 2.2GHz San Diego 90nm

Edited April 16, 2005 by confuzzedintelguy

[kendellrt]

Not all of them will be 2000HTT, some are listed as 1600. It may just be an error on the MonarchPC site.

[tbone2sk]

So it looks like I'm going to get a 3700+ San Diego, or a cheap venice. I'm going to be doing DI runs with it so I have to make sure that it does not have the cold bug still. Or a bad memory controler. As most of guys might not know the cold bug on the winnie is because of the memory controler. So if you get a venice without a updated memory controler than there will be a cold bug.

[kendellrt]

What exactly is the cold bug. I have not had any problems.

[confuzzedintelguy]

Not all of them will be 2000HTT, some are listed as 1600.  It may just be an error on the MonarchPC site.

463491[/snapback]

monarch was lazy and didnt make a new set or descriptions for the chips the just took the S754 one for the 3700 and edited some text trus me they are ALL 2000MHz HTT every single S939 chip is 2000MHz HTT except for the 3400+ that IS the only one with 1600MHz HTT

 

tbone AMD admitted that the cold issues where do to imature mem controllers so i imagin that they would fix it this time arround but this is why ima wait a couple weeks befor even thinking of getting a venice as i want to be sure they are gana work out better

 

the cold bug was when the winnie was under phase change it wouldnt boot while the newcastles had to prob im sure it was just something silliy in the design of the chip

Edited April 16, 2005 by confuzzedintelguy