CelticWhisper Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 First-time poster, so go easy on me, yeah? Well, I'm building my brother a new computer, as he'll be graduating grammar school this spring and he's certainly earned it. The two big factors I'm going for (aside from longevity and overall oomph) are silent and cool. I've read up on the benefits of liquid/water cooling and its impact on both temperature and noise, and was hoping to employ it to keep his case quiet for late-night use, and cool for extended design, compiling, gaming, rendering, graphics, or anything else CPU-intensive. He'll be running an AMD64, which I hear does tend to run hot, so ideally I'd like to water-cool it to keep it within a safe range. The thing is, I've heard a lot of people say that in order to properly water-cool a case, cutting or otherwise modifying the case is required. I'm planning on using the full-tower model of silent case (Lian-li brand) that ThinkGeek offers. Since structural integrity is, in this case, crucial to quiet operation, my question is this: Is there any way to have an all-internal cooling solution that doesn't require me to slice and dice the enclosure to make it work? Thank you very, very much in advance for your help. I really appreciate it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigen Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 amd64's DO NOT run hot...PRESCOTTS DO. and the lian-li PC-73SL is a great case for silence. you might need to cut a hole or 2 for the radiator, but other than that you dont need to do anything. unless u use a rad w/ 2 80mm fans, you can use the very top exhausts above the PSU bay for the radiator Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 amd64's DO NOT run hot...PRESCOTTS DO. and the lian-li PC-73SL is a great case for silence. you might need to cut a hole or 2 for the radiator, but other than that you dont need to do anything. unless u use a rad w/ 2 80mm fans, you can use the very top exhausts above the PSU bay for the radiator 400567[/snapback] Okay...so if I use a radiator without the 2 fans, I can run the hoses all internally and not have to cut anything anywhere? Or if I use the 2 fans I'll have to cut holes for the radiator? Or if I don't use the 2 fans I'll have to cut holes for the radiator? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigen Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 no, the holes are already there. its if u want a 120mm rad, then you would have to cut a hole, but theres already holes for 2 80's above the psu bay. the hose would run inside w/o cutting b/c the rad is inside case and the pump and res are inside case too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_WRATH Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 no such thing as a noiseless water kit every kit has its own amount of noise but first, you need to decide what kit you gonna get you dont need to worry about all that cutting and modding if you no what your gonna get. youve also got to think about other computer components that will make noise such as.. hard drive video card cooler motherboard chipset cooler psu etc etc if you already have these things figured out then DONT MIND ME! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigr5026 Posted January 22, 2005 Posted January 22, 2005 its possible, that one zalman kit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewkivela Posted January 22, 2005 Posted January 22, 2005 yeah you can run everything inside the case but you still need a pump which makes some noise, you might be better off with a big passive heatsink. the zalman reserator is a quiet system but has a huge tower that is outside of the case. -drew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa_smurf Posted January 22, 2005 Posted January 22, 2005 you could always submerge the pump in a large enough resevoir, with the tradeoff being that extra heat is added to the water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_WRATH Posted January 22, 2005 Posted January 22, 2005 that zalman res system is a monster i think, i dont have room for anything that big. and i would never pay that much for a water kit depends on your budget Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted January 22, 2005 Posted January 22, 2005 Okay, so what I've gathered so far is: -All components generate some noise. -Case already has openings for attaching the reservoir. -Zalman kit makes it possible to do all-internal cooling (i.e. no external pumps) without case surgery. -There is another Zalman kit that does have a large external reservoir, but is pricey. I found another kit by a...Kingwin corporation, I think? It looks like it fits into a 5.25" drive bay, has a knob for adjusting fan speed, and seems to contain the pump and reservoir inside the unit. Any known flaws to this device? It doesn't cite compatibility with Socket 939 CPUs, which may be a problem, unless there's no difference in connecting the cooling block on a 939 from a 754 or something... Thanks for the input so far. Most appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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