Gtx 1080 ti or RX5700xt

[jdm_freek]

So I have $400 to spend on a gpu  

I have a Ryzen 3600 and an Asus ROG PG278Q 1440p GSYNC monitor 

and here are some examples of my choices 

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 8GB Windforce OC $365  https://www.newegg.com/p/1FT-000A-000R8?Description=rtx 2070&cm_re=rtx_2070-_-1FT-000A-000R8-_-Product

 

PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT $399 https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-axrx-5700xt-8gbd6-3dh/p/N82E16814131753?Description=rx 5700xt&cm_re=rx_5700xt-_-14-131-753-_-Product

 

or 

Zotac GTX 1080 ti $396 https://store.zotac.com/zotac-geforcer-gtx-1080-ti-refurbished-zt-p10810l-10p-r

Edited November 1, 2019 by jdm_freek

[Braegnok]

I would go with the newer RX 5700 XT card.  7 vs 16nm, less power hungry, and AMD's future driver optimization for the 5700 XT.

The GTX 1080 Ti is 9% faster on average @ 1440p than the RX 5700 XT. Considering Nvidia driver optimization,.. recently an example in Forza Horizon 4 the RTX 2070 Super saw a 30% performance boost while the 1080 Ti got zero percent boost. This means that upon release the 2070 Super was 13% slower than the 1080 Ti, today it's 10% faster. So seems Nvidia is abandoning optimizations for Pascal.

What ever the case the GTX 1080 Ti is 3% faster than RTX 2070 non super,.. If you can snag a brand new 5700 XT for $399 right now seems like a smart investment vs a second hand refurbished 1080 Ti or refurbished 2070.

Edited November 1, 2019 by Braegnok

[ir_cow]

That is a hard choice if you want the most bang for the buck. From someone who has bought a lot of used video cards, you never know what it was used for in the past. Considering the crypto mining was huge at the time, I wouldn't be surprised if the card is a refurbished mining card. I steer clear of any refurbished Pascal GPUs. Mining cards are always abused, that is the just the nature of it. High temps 24/7 degrades the GPU Silicon. I have one card that needs some TLC just to run at stock speeds. Also Zotac isn't know for the highest of quality when it comes to VRM MOSFETs. The company tends to slap on as many as possible. Purely marketing marketing tactic, because its the bottom of the barrel components.

I would personally get the RX 5700 XT if you are targeting the $400 price point. There are other choices, but only lower and higher. Lower would be the GTX 1660 SUPER ($229) or RX 5700 ($320). Higher priced would be the RTX 2070 SUPER.

But since you are playing at 1440P. The best choice is still a RX 5700 XT. (if you into soft modding, apparently you can flash a XT vBIOS onto the 5700 and acheive around 2100mhz cap, vs the 1800mhz the non-XT has. I haven't tried this or looked into it.

Edit: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/flashing-amd-radeon-rx-5700-with-xt-bios-performance-guide/ I'm going to try this today with the RX 5700 Red Devil. See if I can turn into a XT.

[jdm_freek]

So I sold my 980ti that I paid $120 for $200 and I now have $465 

and newegg has a 2080 for $529 https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2080-gv-n2080wf3-8gc/p/N82E16814932163

[Braegnok]

$459.99 @ the egg.  https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RX5700XT-O8G-GAMING/  

[ir_cow]

NVIDIA has made it all funky with the SUPER cards. Basically performance wise  RTX 2060 SUPER is a RTX 2070. RTX 2070 SUPER = RTX 2080. Minus a few SMs. Unless you really want a NVIDIA card, either go AMD 5700 XT or drop $550 for a RTX 2070 SUPER. Personally I think NVIDIA has better DAY 1 stable drivers. AMD has been all over the place. But you pay more for a small gain. The 5700 XT really is putting the hurt on NVIDIA.

You also have to watch out for RTX cards because the lower models (non-super) as some have low TDP and cannot be flashed to a higher OC model. They are nurtured video cards and usually the cheapest base models. The SUPERs all use the same "A" variant GPU, so It doesn't matter which brand or model since they can all be flashed to the higher OC ones.

I really liked the MSI RTX 2070 SUPER Gaming X I reviewed. It is a little on the high side, but one of the best RTX 2070 SUPER cards you will find. But I just found GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 Super WINDFORCE OC. Has the same 240 Watts TDP. For $500 that is a steal. 

RTX 2070 SUPER BIOS Look-ups

RTX 2080 Lookup

[jdm_freek]

10 hours ago, ir_cow said:

NVIDIA has made it all funky with the SUPER cards. Basically performance wise  RTX 2060 SUPER is a RTX 2070. RTX 2070 SUPER = RTX 2080. Minus a few SMs. Unless you really want a NVIDIA card, either go AMD 5700 XT or drop $550 for a RTX 2070 SUPER. Personally I think NVIDIA has better DAY 1 stable drivers. AMD has been all over the place. But you pay more for a small gain. The 5700 XT really is putting the hurt on NVIDIA.

You also have to watch out for RTX cards because the lower models (non-super) as some have low TDP and cannot be flashed to a higher OC model. They are nurtured video cards and usually the cheapest base models. The SUPERs all use the same "A" variant GPU, so It doesn't matter which brand or model since they can all be flashed to the higher OC ones.

I really liked the MSI RTX 2070 SUPER Gaming X I reviewed. It is a little on the high side, but one of the best RTX 2070 SUPER cards you will find. But I just found GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 Super WINDFORCE OC. Has the same 240 Watts TDP. For $500 that is a steal. 

RTX 2070 SUPER BIOS Look-ups

RTX 2080 Lookup

Thank you !!!! I forgot all about the neutered cards 

[ir_cow]

Yep! Only applies to non-super cards.

[Braegnok]

Nvidia has been Gimping GPUs for years.

 

[ir_cow]

I love that video. The Apple one is just as funny.

[jdm_freek]

5 hours ago, ir_cow said:

I love that video. The Apple one is just as funny.

Okay so at $500 is the 2070 super worth it over the 5700xt

[ir_cow]

4 hours ago, jdm_freek said:

Okay so at $500 is the 2070 super worth it over the 5700xt

I believe so for the resolution your monitor is. Otherwise you can find 5700XT on sale for $400 (non-reference). Both are good choices. It really depends on if you like AMD or NVIDIA better.