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Well Atomic Heart is using the Unreal Engine so I suspect that to scale very well across a lot of hardware. Metro Exodus is the new Crysis. From the benchmarks i've looked at a RTX 2060 @ 1920 x 1080 has a average 50-60fps. It seems the game is truly GPU bound so 4,6 or 8 cores will give similar FPS.

 

From intel website the i5 8400 and i5 9600k are similar with both having 6 cores and hyper-thread disabled. But the clock speeds are different. The i5 9600K is vastly superior. Hyper-Threading is good if you can afford it. It is essentially running 2 threads per core. Intel disabled it on the lower CPUs to make more money. 

 

i5 8400:

Overclockable: No

Cores: 6

Threads: 6

CPU Clock: 2.8Ghz

Turbo: 4Ghz (Single Core)

Cache: 9MB

 

i5 9600K:

Overclcokable: Yes (K model)

Cores: 6

Threads: 6

CPU Clock: 3.7 Ghz

Turbo: 4.6Ghz (Single Core)

Cache: 9MB

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Yeah I've seen the 9600k a pretty decent option from Intel and pretty much cheapier than 8700 or 8700k

Anyway.. check this out.. just confirming that If you want to game GPU is the way..

CPU is going to add brealy nothing to gameplay experience...

Also I insist on getting 3200+mhz is waste of money (at least for me where the price is double regarding 2400mhz, and FPS gain with no OC CPU is nearly 5%)

 

Linus channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvXfgdyQxPQ

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Yeah I've seen the 9600k a pretty decent option from Intel and pretty much cheapier than 8700 or 8700k

 

Anyway.. check this out.. just confirming that If you want to game GPU is the way..

CPU is going to add brealy nothing to gameplay experience...

Also I insist on getting 3200+mhz is waste of money (at least for me where the price is double regarding 2400mhz, and FPS gain with no OC CPU is nearly 5%)

 

Linus channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvXfgdyQxPQ

 

Your CPU & Memory do indeed effect gameplay experience. 

 

 

If your running a Coffee Lake CPU you want to run at least 2666MHz memory.  https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_8700K_Coffee_Lake_Memory_Performance_Benchmark_Analysis/

 

You can build a decent gaming rig and save a few dollars with Kaby Lake i5-7600K & 8GB 2400MHz memory, or Coffee Lake i5-8600K & 8GB 2666MHz memory.

 

And put a nice OC on the chip, you will be just fine,.. spend your money on current gen GPU.  :cheers:  

 

i5-7600K vs i5-8600K 5GHz review:  https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/10/05/intel_coffee_lake_core_i58600k_vs_7600k_at_5ghz_review/1

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Yeah I want to run everything at stock.

I've been gaming with my current PC since 2010 without OC. No problems, maybe the last games not ultra settings but nice.

 

Also I can see a better performance of High Mhz Memory with OC Processors. But the gain is not comparable with the price of the RAM Sticks, at least In my country. Also a 3200mhz+ mobo will be in the gamer high end section and it can be really out of my budget. 
Tho I've seen a nice pair of Crucial but the latency is high.. I've studied that long time ago but high latency is worse.. so 3200mhz RAM with low latency is REALLY expensive. I prefer save on RAM and get GPU, I just want to Play Games.

 

I want a Mid+ not Enthusiast High End. 1080p will be my max and I will buy the monitor for 1080p in the future. Out of money right now. I wil stick with 20" (yeah i know is crappy but is what i have =()

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Im in the computer shop right now. There many stores I would like to consult. I was offered i5 9400F. Much cheapier. Andngood option since I wont overclock.

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That i5 9400F,is basically just a i5 8400. If you are planing on using this computer for 7-10 years, donf skimp on the CPU.

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Ok thats good to know. But i will not OC. So there is no point getting 9600k.

8700 is 70% more expensive and not 70% more powerful.

 

Im trying to get the bedt for tight budget. Ill spend 1000-1050 dollar. But here hardware is xpensive

 

Also i was talling with the guy in the store. Jaja they can say 50 extra bucks is nothing but here is a lot. And i need to save for the monitor also :P

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Q&A. I Q and you A

 

a)If you have an i5 9600k which is @3.7ghz baseand 4.5ghz With turbo boost

Why would you OC? Isn't processor going to do it automatically when it does need? 

Or is it that with OC you will run 100% of the times at the stablished Clock (and you can go even further)

 

b) Could motherboard prevent Turbo Boost from working? I'm talking about medium class mobo.

 

c) Would you even get a 9600k if you won't OC or it will be a waste?

 

d) If you buy let's say Kingston Hyper Fury 2400mhz and your mobo support 2666Mhz sticks. 

Can you activate one of the profiles and take that memory to 2666Mhz?

 

e) The difference between ATX and MicroATX is the number of PCI Slots and sometimes RAM Slots. Does ATX mobo are constructed with better materials also (Capacitors, etc)?

Would you mind buyinga MicroAXT for a medium gaming build like mine?

 

f) Which RAM would you choose? (ill get 16gb total) Take a loot at price difference


ADATA XPG Flame Black 8gb (I have no reference about this product but is what they offer me)

Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8gb 2400mhz

Kingson HyperX Fury Black 8gb 2400mhz

(I'd go with the Crucial but is not available on the store I will acquire the products..)


 

TIPS: 

- 3200mhz RAM is not an option since is out of my budget being really expensive.

- Ignore SSD if you want as i'm not so interested on it for the time being. I can get one later.

- I think I will struggle with 9600k despite being more expensive since I want PC to last for as long as possible and 9600F use Thermal Paste. I think I would need to replace it from time to time.

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